DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 6

[Bishop01]

Winter flight or not....It obviously can b done with regards to staffing etc.. otherwise hummberside would go in hibernation in the winter like DTV does for 12 months of the year now!

It's that old chestnut though! "Hummberside airport wants it more than the likes of DTV"...

Very sad I'm afraid unless youre on the peel bandwagon.....

[highwideandugly]

I might be wrong..probably...but to my knowledge neither Leeds or Newcastle ATC have ever closed the respective airports? And don't forget The AFS coverage !!

Bishop..you are completely right but a few on here are completely blinkered.."Nero fiddled while Rome burned" ..Ahh flights to Rome..that would be nice..

Another quote.."

From Beafer......"the truth is out There". Yes I watch too much TV( no aeroplanes to watch)

[letitrun]

Sorry, but I don't think that Newcastle ATC has ever closed down its services. If it has it would be interested to know when and where the information came from or where it is listed.

[Robert-Ryan]

Ok, let's go with Newcastle and Leeds have never closed due to ATC (regardless of whether it's correct or not)...it doesn't matter because, as stated twice now...the point is other airports do it, which ones are irrelevant.

but a few on here are completely blinkered

haha...class!!

[SWBKCB]

Government declines to interfere with plans for 350 houses near Teesside Airport - Gazette Live

The Government has refused to interfere with controversial plans to build 350 houses close to Durham Tees Valley Airport .

Plans to build 350 new homes close to Durham Tees Valley Airport (DTVA) have been returned to Darlington Council “for determination” by Sajid Javid, the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government.

[N707ZS]

Good as one of the comments say lets get on with it.

[VentureGo]

Is it not obvious? Housing will get the go ahead. .... as Americans would add ... "Period" (meaning in English) .. "Full Stop"

Tee-side to Newcastle Airport could be done in less than 30 min. if good quality rail link/ road links were invested in, rather than this tedious, lost discussion /argument dragging Peel "KICKING AND SCREAMING" AGAINST THEIR WILL TO INVEST in A LOST CAUSE" of THEIR OWN WISH & making - i.e... They don't want to play!!!!!! - Sort out the mis-placed CAPS and you'RE Qualified to RESPOND!!!

EDIT: Just calculated it is actually cheaper to travel (even with current poor links) to NCL and have a greater choice at lower cost than via MME... Should we not be pushing for High quality fast links to NCL airport and capitalise on the wider North East as a strong competitor to MAN. EDI, and GLA. airports

[No-More-Bullschit]

Over the last couple of days I didn't think it was possible for there to be any more bullschit on here, then VentureGo comes along and raises the bar considerably

[VentureGo]

Originally Posted by No-More-Bullschit

Over the last couple of days I didn't think it was possible for there to be any more bullschit on here, then VentureGo comes along and raises the bar considerably

And your point is? - Based and backed up with some factual evidence ....


Edit: Just reviewed your recent posts ... Concluded You are either deluded or on the Peel "Payroll" ... Come on... Get Real!!!....

Edit... Edit ... You Failed the First test re. "Sort out the mis-placed caps and then respond".... but I guess ...... your level of comprehension...... !!!! ....

[N707ZS]

VentureGo somewhere else, ground hog

if good quality rail link/ road links were invested in

!


We have a good rail link to Manchester airport and they keep telling us its faster by train to London from Darlington.

[VentureGo]

Originally Posted by N707ZS

VentureGo somewhere else, ground hog !


We have a good rail link to Manchester airport and they keep telling us its faster by train to London from Darlington.

Manchester is a terrible experience and.... LONDON - ...Seriously!!! .... Why So Anti - Newcastle?!!!!

[No-More-Bullschit]

Venture...there's only one of us deluded and it ain't me (nor am I on the Peel payroll)

and we're not going to start the whole facts thing again are we?! The only person who has done that on here lately is Mr Ryan by noting the recent developments regarding staffing, terminal refurbishments etc

[N707ZS]

Manchester is a terrible experience and.... LONDON - ...Seriously!!! .... Why So Anti - Newcastle?!!!!

Because you keep banging on about it!

[Beafer]

Peel buying more land around airport

Peel have been buying more land around airport.
The plot which is opposite the Camper van showroom was supposed to be going to be a hotel and was owned by a shipping company.
Peel purchased the small plot just to the left of the airport access road next to A67 for a lot more than the councils were paid for the whole airport 800 acre site.
Peel also purchased the small Tower Works plot for the same price which they paid for the airport.
Anyone know how the Refuse firm got on with their licence application over at the old gym site near Hangar 3?

[Beafer]

Re south side planning granted

Re the South Side planning which Stockton granted.
The map page shows some details when zoomed in around south side. Look at the fence line and how it changes on the SW corner. Not sure what it boxes in?
Use the + / - to zoom in and hold cursor down over map to move around area.
Land use has been changed, whats the betting it will end up being changed to more houses. Stockton will receive the council tax
The Map takes a while to load onto the screen..

https://www.developmentmanagement.st...=NQUKQ4PKGFL00

[Bishop01]

Originally Posted by No-More-Bullschit

Venture...there's only one of us deluded and it ain't me (nor am I on the Peel payroll)

and we're not going to start the whole facts thing again are we?! The only person who has done that on here lately is Mr Ryan by noting the recent developments regarding staffing, terminal refurbishments etc

Rite... Why is it on here as soon as questions are asked on some of RR Comments/Speculations it all kicks off...


first off all, RR "or who ever he wants to be on here"
'yes'.. he does talk some sence, but as I've found out, he talks a lot of speculation and cant back up his comments when questioned...... so if people want to believe all of this, then no doubt they believe that Peel will plough all the money back into the Airport from the sale of the land for the houses... they've already laid down the foundations with the well timed "were keeping this airport open and its costing us 200k a month to do so shananigings"..... so no doubt a good start to their bargaining tools when asked how much they plan to put back into the Airport.. Hope I'm wrong and hope I don't have to come back on here in ten years and say "well I did tell you that" I wouldn't trust anything they say as they've had plenty of time to turn this place round.. 'well over a decade' likewise regarding the local councilor who said he'd buy back the airport if elected as mayor... Tosh! never trust a politician.... I certainly didn't fall for that rubbish and cant believe now people are having a go at the bloke..


Believe it or not I want this place to succeed but people are just getting sick of all the usual rubbish" with nothing positive to come out of the place for years... all rite getting 24hr D/Os..and doing up the terminal but no good if the Airport is still having ATC shut downs on a regular basis, driving what traffic we have away... like I've said on here a number of times.. what ever peel are doing.. "its not working as pax numbers are still dropping, so people like RR can come on here and say i've heard the Pax figures are healthy and KLM and Eastern are happy.. that's his opinion of it and if people want to believe that then crack on!!

[highwideandugly]

Mixed Emotions...is this the...
start of something great..or the beginning of the end? ..only time will tell and everyone has different ideas.

Probably shouted down ,but my opinion is ..a slow decline..as Suspected by a few,in the past.

No progressive,vibrant,outward looking airport..would sell valuable land,literally on its door step for anything..let alone housing!

Ok you guys if you are happy with a second or maybe third rate airport and are happy with these developments,then go ahead..shout down Bishop,Onion,Beafer,Venture,me and the rest..not very forward thinking me thinks?

[N707ZS]

Is it valuable land or a bit of farm land left over from the new road and a wet football field. The land on the other side of the old entrance road is probably more valuable and none of that is being sold off for houses. Come on Venture only likes buses and train to Newcastle!!

[highwideandugly]

Venture busses...does that bring back memories??

[Robert-Ryan]

Ok, time to take a step back I think and look at this from a different angle, and try and explain why I feel how I feel rather than trying to ram it down peoples throats like I have previously and certainly like the likes of Bishop, Beafer et al do.

My problem with the negative brigade, or at least some of them, is two fold, firstly there are two types of negative user on here, and indeed in the real world, there are those who are generally negative but keep an open mind, whom I have no problem with, then there are the arrogant types who have to have the last word with their “the airport is doomed because I say it is” attitude and are not prepared to entertain any other scenario. Secondly how many of these people who scream that Peel are the devil are actually qualified or in a position to make such a judgement? Granted there will be some, but how many are just going off the BS that gets printed in the media, or second hand rumour/Chinese whispers? I have worked at the airport for a number of years now, survived redundancies and have had the master plan explained to me in great depth by senior management [go back through my post history and you'll get an idea of when this was, I was once anti-Peel believe it or not before I got wise!) in an effort to make me feel better about losing friends and colleagues to cost cutting – it doesn’t make me feel better about that but it does make me feel fearless about the future of the place and it damn well makes me more qualified than 95% on here when it comes to speculating [knowing] the true intentions of the owners.

To answer some other bramas:

then no doubt they believe that Peel will plough all the money back into the Airport from the sale of the land for the houses...

You’ll have an answer to this as conspiracy theorists always have an answer to everything…but I suppose an iron clad section 106 legal agreement isn’t good enough for you?

as they've had plenty of time to turn this place round.. 'well over a decade'

The above conspiracy theory prefix applies here too, but this is largely (though not entirely) down to the fact that the industry has changed dramatically over ten years, the real criticism is not so much that they haven’t done anything, it’s that they haven’t reacted and adapted to change sooner.

its not working as pax numbers are still dropping, so people like RR can come on here and say i've heard the Pax figures are healthy and KLM and Eastern are happy.. that's his opinion of it

Yes, it is just my opinion, and if I’m not mistaken I made it clear it was exactly that, I don’t recall stating it as fact, and if I did then I’ll let you have this one and I stand corrected.

But what really really bugs me, is when the negative brigade come out with gems such as these:

but as I've found out, he talks a lot of speculation and cant back up his comments when questioned

and

but a few on here are completely blinkered

Whilst in many cases the first quote above may often be true…THESE COMMENTS APPLY TO THE ANTI-PEEL MOB EVERY BIT AS MUCH AS THE PRO-PEEL BUNCH!!!!
Given that 24H DOs, increased fire category and terminal refurbishments are things that have happened or are happening and can be seen with your own eyes, I don’t know what better qualifies as backing up my argument [on this occasion]!!

I’ll end on a footnote with a couple of things we can definitely agree on:

regarding the local councilor who said he'd buy back the airport if elected as mayor... Tosh! never trust a politician.... I certainly didn't fall for that rubbish

and

Believe it or not I want this place to succeed

I'll also acknowledge that those with a negative outlook have good reason for it.

hope I don't have to come back on here in ten years and say "well I did tell you that"

I hope [know] I will!!!