DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 6
N-M-B - I've no problem with DTVA using some of the site for housing, I'm all for anything which makes the site more viable, but the concern at DTVA is the location. As well as being very close to the apron and taxiways, it effectively hems in the terminal - my recollection is the main access to the terminal will be through the new housing estate, access to any commercial development on the south side will run alongside and most of the terminal car parking will disappear.
EGPO - where to start?
DTVA cancelled the contract with TUI
KLM have already withdrawn the Fk.100 - the Fk.70's (80 seats) are being replaced by EMB-175's (88 seats) so little change. These are the smallest a/c in the fleet. They seem to have a profitable core of business travellers so don't see anything changing soon. The terminal is to be re-furbished, and I wouldn't be surprised if KLM did some prompting.
The owners plan to save the airport is a mix of developing the site for housing and commercial use, maintain/attract a limited number of airline routes and to develop non-airline aviation businesses.
EGPO - where to start?
DTVA cancelled the contract with TUI
KLM have already withdrawn the Fk.100 - the Fk.70's (80 seats) are being replaced by EMB-175's (88 seats) so little change. These are the smallest a/c in the fleet. They seem to have a profitable core of business travellers so don't see anything changing soon. The terminal is to be re-furbished, and I wouldn't be surprised if KLM did some prompting.
The owners plan to save the airport is a mix of developing the site for housing and commercial use, maintain/attract a limited number of airline routes and to develop non-airline aviation businesses.
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I may have been off here a while due to commitments in Asia, however as I have a few spare hours whilst travelling through Shanghai I thought I would make my comments on the future...
Although the terminal upgrade is going ahead I have noticed the installation of a games room, this in my opinion is not required for business travellers, after travelling continuously for work with KLM I have never seen anyone on the KLM flights wanting to play air hockey, alas this is a waste of money.
I have heard as well that KLM are once again questioning the feasibility of the route and may well look to end the contract earlier if passenger figures don't go up.
It also seems that FoDTVA are now being treat as servants to the airport with a social media policy, heavily influenced by the Peel gangsters. I am a paid up member of FoDTVA just to keep an eye on what is going on.
I still also don't understand why these members are asked to "help out" when a charter flight comes in, I've flew through many airports as have many in the UK now and I'm sure they don't need assistance to be guided through the garden shed...
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Although the terminal upgrade is going ahead I have noticed the installation of a games room, this in my opinion is not required for business travellers, after travelling continuously for work with KLM I have never seen anyone on the KLM flights wanting to play air hockey, alas this is a waste of money.
I have heard as well that KLM are once again questioning the feasibility of the route and may well look to end the contract earlier if passenger figures don't go up.
It also seems that FoDTVA are now being treat as servants to the airport with a social media policy, heavily influenced by the Peel gangsters. I am a paid up member of FoDTVA just to keep an eye on what is going on.
I still also don't understand why these members are asked to "help out" when a charter flight comes in, I've flew through many airports as have many in the UK now and I'm sure they don't need assistance to be guided through the garden shed...
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Although the terminal upgrade is going ahead I have noticed the installation of a games room, this in my opinion is not required for business travellers, after travelling continuously for work with KLM I have never seen anyone on the KLM flights wanting to play air hockey, alas this is a waste of money.
Surely the games room would only work if you had a load of bucket and spade passengers passing through. Alas this would seem to be a pipe dream, the likes of Thomson's are going to give MME a wide berth after the way they were treated.
Surely the games room would only work if you had a load of bucket and spade passengers passing through. Alas this would seem to be a pipe dream, the likes of Thomson's are going to give MME a wide berth after the way they were treated.
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unbelievable...
I shook my head in disbelief at the ' games room, they do know it's an Airport not some dingy low rent motorway service area?.
As for KLM leaving I had also heard this.
IMHO when the Fokkers are gone KLM may decide not to send it's larger aircraft , unless they still have any small prop aircraft in service?.
And godforbid they go i cant see Eastern bothering anymore they'd be just as well to relocate to Carlisle if it actually opens next year.
As for KLM leaving I had also heard this.
IMHO when the Fokkers are gone KLM may decide not to send it's larger aircraft , unless they still have any small prop aircraft in service?.
And godforbid they go i cant see Eastern bothering anymore they'd be just as well to relocate to Carlisle if it actually opens next year.
When did you hear of KLM leaving Onyx? And by larger I assume you're referring to the EMB-170? Also, why would Eastern be better off moving to Carlisle?
Eastern to Carlisle or maybe KLM. Come on guys...Carlisle will never survive as an airport,never has,never will...
KLM to leave DTV? It's a possibility but doubtful..worryingly the figures month on month are not good...it will almost certainly need an upturn in passengers to keep KLM happy..no sign over last 6 months. KLM have a lot on their plate with Air France as a partner!!!!
Eastern..who knows,,other threads put them down as a basket case!
Finally..don't think a games room will encourage extra passengers.....oh please. Let's fly from DTV. They have a Pokemon machine...or then again....
Try new accurate road sign posts,cancel departure tax and actually have a product that works?
KLM to leave DTV? It's a possibility but doubtful..worryingly the figures month on month are not good...it will almost certainly need an upturn in passengers to keep KLM happy..no sign over last 6 months. KLM have a lot on their plate with Air France as a partner!!!!
Eastern..who knows,,other threads put them down as a basket case!
Finally..don't think a games room will encourage extra passengers.....oh please. Let's fly from DTV. They have a Pokemon machine...or then again....
Try new accurate road sign posts,cancel departure tax and actually have a product that works?
IMHO when the Fokkers are gone KLM may decide not to send it's larger aircraft , unless they still have any small prop aircraft in service?.
Perhaps the games room is part of the community facilities promised for the new housing?
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Is it definitely a games room? If this has been taken from FODTVAs Facebook feed then it appears they were only speculating? Seems to be a lot of FODTVA bashing on here again, which I've never understood, if they were being treated as servants I would imagine their members would just unsubscribe en mass, you can't really hold a gun to the heads of an organisation like that, if they're investing their time and effort they must be getting something out of it? And the notion that they're unpaid staff is just ridiculous, if that was the case half the jobs currently listed on the airport website would just be given to FODTVA!!
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Well here we are again, all about FoDTVA, I know fine well that a few of their members are on here and often say they aren't members, clearly shows embarrassment to the scheme. I was thinking when passing through the terminal yesterday that all these unpaid hours of work that the "friends" are doing could be better directed towards a charity, not a working business that is there to make a profit and just exploiting these deluded people.
I notice Eastern have got AIS in to use a J32 on the ABZ flights, a blast from the past there and definitely not a good swap in my opinion although it will make the load factors look more pleasing.
Anyways, I wonder who's playing butler to the airport paid staff, must be a friend permanently in the terminal now I guess, shame they don't help me off the KLM flight as I've almost forgot how to use an airport.
I notice Eastern have got AIS in to use a J32 on the ABZ flights, a blast from the past there and definitely not a good swap in my opinion although it will make the load factors look more pleasing.
Anyways, I wonder who's playing butler to the airport paid staff, must be a friend permanently in the terminal now I guess, shame they don't help me off the KLM flight as I've almost forgot how to use an airport.
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My point proven. I understand the group is run by amongst others a number of successful business directors and managers, perhaps that strengthens your argument rather than weakens it but at the very least it rules out deluded. If liking their Facebook page counts as membership then yeah I guess I am, but I haven't shelled out a membership fee, the airport pay me to do 40 odd hours a week, I could not justify paying money back in to do more!!
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So with the J32 on Aberdeen, it goes back up to 4 daily apart from a Friday.
Also KLM are reinstating the Sunday tea time flight from the end of October, but the mid morning flight stops, so still only 2 flights on Sunday's
Also KLM are reinstating the Sunday tea time flight from the end of October, but the mid morning flight stops, so still only 2 flights on Sunday's