DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 6

[highwideandugly]

Airshow

Talking to a few locals..probably the worst air show ever?
I can't comment as unable to go.

The organising committee did their very best however it's a difficult world in the air show business these days??

My fear is that it reflects on DTV?? It's par for the course ,for there I heard...which is not what we want to hear?

So what now..probably a financial problem ahead..is worth another go??
The rumours are Sunderland might not be on next year as massive problems with finances...or maybe time to call it a day? Who knows..but best of luck with any decisions.
Maybe time for new ideas for progress... attract some business,fuel stops,ferry flights,a low Cost Carrier,maintenance,painting...any ideas welcome...

[No-More-Bullschit]

Highwide...see my previous post!! Happily, the locals maintain their 100% record of being wrong. The air show was a critical success, granted only just...there were more complaints and there is more to learn from, but there were still more positive comments than bad ones on various social media.

[N707ZS]

Maybe time for new ideas for progress... attract some business,fuel stops,ferry flights,a low Cost Carrier,maintenance,painting...any ideas welcome

Hopefully this is what might be attracted to the new hangars once the money is released from the housing project.

[jensdad]

Any updates on the rumour of Jet2 starting flying from MME?

[Robert-Ryan]

Not a snowballs chance in hell, I don't even recognise it as a legitimate rumour it's so unlikely...what is a lot more likely (but not guaranteed I fear) is Eastern/Flybe operating a Paris route as shown on the dtv movements website.

[P330]

Paris

Paris has a reasonable chance of working IF it has an AF codeshare. If not, and it's purely p2p, then I think it would go the same way as the short lived Brussels flight (also with Eastern).

Paris into 2E would be great for business connections (on AF) as well as city visitors.

Let's hope!

[Bishop01]

I seriously think before any sort of flights going ahead..'including more GA' DTV/peel need to sort out this farce of the ATC shut downs.. its been going on now for far too long... I was picking people up from the evening Lourdes Alba star flight Friday night, when the empty outbound flight missed its slot by minutes, so pilot/crew had to wait an hour while the ATC had their shut down.. and while on the subject of this flight, the inbound flight wasn't even on the flight arrivals board.. but they had the Monarch 737 on a training flight earlier, which did a no show...

I do think if this route does come off though, Eastern is not the answer, as we have found out on previous attempts.. but at least its a step in the rite direction... Hope i'm roved wrong??

[SWBKCB]

Paris has a reasonable chance of working IF it has an AF codeshare

But AF/KLM then end up competing with themselves on AMS?

[highwideandugly]

Great news

Paris..wow..that's a departure (pun) from the usual letter A departures!!

Will it work..time will tell....
However with a probable once a day. Middle of day? Flight,does this really see a change of tact by PEEL? If so. As staffed up for this flight..how about reaching out to a tour operator and get a holiday type operation at the same time??

[onion]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

But AF/KLM then end up competing with themselves on AMS?

But Flybe/Eastern won't be flying to AMS!
If you are referring to interlining through Paris instead of AMS I'm sure other airports manage it where KL and AF fly to AMS and CDG respectively!

[NorthSouth]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

But AF/KLM then end up competing with themselves on AMS?

Surely this is the critical point. From somewhere like DTV, a Paris flight is only going to work as a connection to an international transit hub. But if it's one flight in the middle of the day and competing with KLM, how can it possibly work?

[SWBKCB]

if you're on an AF codeshare, that's effectively AF, so they are competing to some extent (but also to some extent complementary as on some routes it might be more conventinet to fly out AF and back KL.

however, looking at the a/c size and number of flights, AMS is probably at the bottom end of viability. If AF start nicking transit pax of KL, could end up cannabilising the route.

All depends on how big the market is - and to some extent they will be complementary as on some routes it might be more convient to fly out AF and back KL.

Eastern provide four aircraft under the Flybe brand

The deal will see Eastern Airways fly routes previously flown in a franchise agreement with Loganair, namely Aberdeen-Sumburgh, Glasgow-Sumburgh, Edinburgh-Sumburgh, Glasgow-Manchester, Aberdeen-Kirkwall, and Glasgow-Stornoway.

In addition, Eastern will also fly routes between Aberdeen, Norwich, Teesside, Newcastle, Southampton, Leeds, Cardiff and Paris from September 1.

Has anybody worked out the number of A/C needed for this lot - also, just to be a doom monger, aren't all the points in the final quote on the current Eastern network? Maybe it's just the existing flights becoming Flybe codeshares rather than being new routes from the UK to Paris?

[EK77WNCL]

Huge misunderstanding here, all the article is saying is that Eastern have bases at those airports.

I don't think any of those routes would EVER work for eastern, unless an existing flybe route that needed a reduction in capacity like Southampton-Paris

Also, Eastern are based at Orly, Flybe and Air France at Charles de Gaulle

dtvmovements really clutching at straws here I'm afraid. It is a slightly confusing article, but I struggle to see how anyone could think that was an announcement of a Flybe/Eastern Teesside-Paris flight. Who would pay £400+ for that when you can spend half the money on KLM? And realistically Paris isn't that huge from a lot of UK markets... It wouldn't work. London, Dublin, Belfast, Spain, Canaries, Balearics, Greece, Bulgaria, Portugal... Yes. Paris, not so much

[Robert-Ryan]

EK77WNCL - yes the article does say that Eastern have bases at those airports, but the paragraph preceeding that one reads as follows:

In addition, Eastern will also fly routes between Aberdeen, Norwich, Teesside, Newcastle, Southampton, Leeds, Cardiff and Paris from September 1.

Whilst I agree completely this is not by a long shot confirmed as definite yet, I believe it holds more potential than people are giving it credit for.

Also who says it's going to be £400+ ?! If Flybe have a hand in it it may well be sold as a low cost route?

And to defend the movements website they have acknowledged that the article may be clutching at straws with a disclaimer.

[onion]

The key is how you read the list. Is it a list including Paris or a list of routes too Paris. The key phrase is "and Paris".
English don't you just love it! 😈

[SWBKCB]

No mention of new routes, so it does seem to be just code-sharing on existing services

EASTERN AIRWAYS AND FLYBE TO FORM AN ALLIANCE | Eastern Airways

Flybe Agreement with Eastern Airways

[22/04]

It's not a codeshare but a franchise as I read. All BE flight number not EZE ones

[N707ZS]

I see the airport has a new M.P wonder if he can do more than mayor Parmo and his mate Mr Wharton.

[highwideandugly]

Doubt it..these guys are all talk! But there will be plenty of bravado,bluster and promises!

[EK77WNCL]

In the event that Jet2 were to base an aircraft or 2 at MME, would they be able to use the existing NCL crew base? I could see scope for 1 based 733 with a few routes... Say:

Alicante (x3), Palma (x3), Malaga (x2), Faro (X2), Tenerife (x2), Lanzarote (x1), Rhodes (x1)

Monday: ALC/AGP

Tuesday: FAO/TFS

Wednesday: ALC/RHO

Thursday: PMI/ACE

Friday: AGP/TFS

Saturday: FAO/PMI

Sunday: ALC/PMI