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Old 29th Dec 2016, 05:52
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On the flip side there isn't much vacant property on the airfield.
Do you mean property as in vacant buildings or as in land for development? Presumably the former as if the latter, the Masterplan's scuppered!
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Property as in vacant buildings.
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 06:23
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Thought so - and talking of annual reviews...

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Old 29th Dec 2016, 06:30
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And that doesn't mention two of the big companies SERCO and TNT.
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 06:38
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SERCO is mentioned -

Very busy and continue to enjoy a worldwide reputation that is the envy of their competitors
- and as for TNT it does say...

Based soley on aircraft movements, the below reviews should not be seen as an indication of how a company is performing financially
And yes - contradictory, don't think SERCO get too many aircraft movements!
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 06:47
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Apologies, cold bug still affecting. Would be interesting to see how many passengers SERCO generates.
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 07:25
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Excellent yearly review from DTV movements.

In truth though another year of uncertainty and stagnation.
The CAA figures are in disarray,however my reading is that KLM figures started off really well but have fallen away again towards the end of the year..having said that,figures for the last 3 months are missing.Eastern..big problems and not generated by DTV alone!
My guess is total passengers will be in the same area as last year..nil real growth.
Movements for all the bluster,similar,very little if any meaningful growth.
TNT and Sycamore all road freight now..not sure how much revenue that generates?

At the end of the day we come back to the housing master plan for salvation???
It's going to be a another difficult year.
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 16:14
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Beefer, with utmost respect, why don't you give it a rest?

Yes Peel probably got the airport on the cheap but that is not their fault, more down to the councils who sold it in the first place who at best were naiive and worst incompetent.

Perhaps someone could recommend a more appropriate forum to tittle-tattle about the Peel empire?
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Just had a look at Beafer s maps( and no,we are not the same person!) it does make a bit of sense.

However the more you look at it....no vibrant,go ahead progressive airport would have housing up to the boundary..would they?
A fire school next to expensive cargo facilities..oops..never saw that bang coming!!

I don't honestly know guys...a few on here are pretty adamant that the airport has no future
,it has but maybe on a much smaller scale? Probably no schedules but plenty of GA/Biz. With a steady inexpensive income on its way to PEEL?

Oh well into 2017,with the same concerns,doubts and hope!!!
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 17:00
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What market would a rail freight terminal be serving? Could GA/Biz support the infrastructure on their own?

IMHO the KLM AMS service is essential - it gives the site the "global connectivity" USP that no other site in the area has.
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I agree,without KLM, DTV. Would close within months.
I just sometimes wonder how much PEEL are paying..yes paying to keep KLM here until...the real master plan, land and housing becomes a reality!
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 17:18
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Peel have been very busy using up their land bank.
Peel Holdings - Company News Summary

The last "news" on that link is two years old?!
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 18:07
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tigertanaka some things you can flush and they go away but others just keep floating up, LBA has a similar turd!
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Old 29th Dec 2016, 21:18
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Another very good annual review on the movements website, if a little downbeat, though it is hard not to be I guess.

Beafer, a couple of observations, no.1 this is a thread for Durham Tees Valley Airport not Peel Group therefore most of your posts are off-topic and often therefore spam. Secondly, I don't believe it to be coincidence that said spam always appears after the thread takes a positive turn.
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 10:38
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Take a look into this detectives!


Moorfield Semley and the Southside development, who caused it to go to planning inquiry lasting years thus loosing the investors, who gave the duff info about 50 jumbos a day. Possibly the outcome of this is why the councils decided to sell.


Or was the whole plan pie in the sky.
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 10:59
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When you look at how a large public owned airport has been gifted to a billionaire and his cronies, it does make one wonder why the original Teesside Airport sale documents haven't been revealed. Whats to hide???


Let's go over this again - from the Northern Echo 14 years ago:

On 07/01/03 it was announced that Peel Airports would be the ‘preferred bidder’ to become a Strategic Partner in the airports long-term development, with detailed negotiations taking place with the aim of finalising an agreement by March. Councillor Bob Gibson, speaking on behalf of the shareholder authorities, said they were impressed with the level of investment and expertise which the company was prepared to commit to Teesside International, coupled with the its strong track record in the transportation and property development fields. Peel will be working with the local authority shareholders to bring forward development of commercial property at the airport, including the regionally important Southside site, in addition to the operational business of the airport. Peel Airports Ltd owns Liverpool John Lennon Airport (one of the fastest growing airports in the UK) and also plans to develop a new commercial airport on the site of the former RAF Finningley, while its parent company Peel Holdings also owns the Manchester Ship Canal and the Trafford Centre shopping complex in Manchester. Under the proposals, Peel Airports will acquire a majority shareholding in the Airport, but the local authorities will retain a significant interest in the company and will be involved in its continuing development. Said Councillor Gibson “We were impressed by the high levels of interest shown by a large number of quality organisations in becoming involved in the continuing development of Teesside International. When we announced the start of the process last year we stressed we were looking for potential partners who could demonstrate they had the resources to deliver the required investment, together with experience of public/private partnerships and the workings of the airport industry. Peel Airports certainly meets all those criteria. It has an impressive track record in the development of many major projects across the North of England, including of course Liverpool John Lennon Airport which has gone from strength to strength since the company became involved with it five years ago.”

Added Councillor Ken Hall, Chairman of the Airport Board “It has been made clear to us that, if we can successfully conclude an agreement, investment in upgrading Teesside International could start virtually straight away, with a total of £20million being made available over a five year period. This will enable the Airport to provide the quality of terminal and other facilities which will attract both a much wider range of services and greatly increased passengers numbers with the prospect of reaching an annual figure of 1.5million, twice current levels, within five years. We believe the appointment of Peel Airports as a strategic partner would be in the interests of the Airport, its customers, staff and the economic future of our area.” Explained Airport Managing Director Hugh Lang “The local authorities, supported by the Airport management, began the process of securing a private sector strategic partner because we believed it was the most viable option for securing the levels of investment needed for the key projects which will enable the Airport to maximise its own potential and contribute to the regeneration of the communities its serves. Those projects and the levels of funding required were identified through a comprehensive assessment undertaken by the Airport Management, together with the regional development agency One NorthEast and external consultants. Other agencies, including the Tees Valley Partnership and Tees Valley Urban Regeneration Company, are also closely involved in supporting the Airport as a key element in the local economy.”

Robert Hough, chairman of Peel Airports, said: "Teesside International Airport has seen significant improvements, but in an increasingly competitive market for air services it is now entering an important phase in its development. We believe this proposed investment by Peel will enable its full potential to be achieved, providing greater choice to business and leisure passengers alike in a major conurbation and also bringing significant economic benefits. For Peel, it enables the group to expand in the regional airport sector, where it has achieved considerable success in recent years, particularly in the growth at Liverpool John Lennon Airport. With Liverpool in the North West and probably also Finningley in Yorkshire , the Peel Group will be able to serve the three key northern regions of England". Peter Nears, Peels strategic planning director, said: "Airports are widely recognised as drivers of economic growth and therefore maximising the regenerative benefits Teesside International Airport can bring to the local economy will be a priority. In particular, we see synergies between the services the airport provides and adjacent commercial development opportunities."
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 11:32
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Beefer, posts about Saudi companies and speculative questions about corporation tax do not belong on this forum.

Just to be clear I have absolutely no connection with Peel, i'm just sick of the same posts coming up over and over again, it is like a cracked record.
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 12:12
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Good Business Sense, is that good or bad? Don't have a clue on the price of these services.


I see no answer to my question so far!
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 13:38
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I seem to remember over the last 20 years or so Newcastle also have produced numerous "master plans" or at least development plans and if I recall ,non of them have come to fruition? Now that is from a moderately successful airport.
DTV which was once a moderately successful airport circa Globespan days is now firmly in the doldrums with a( another) master plan on the drawing board.Therefore it's not without possibility that this also is just pie in the sky..thought up to keep the councils,locals and business community happy?
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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 14:03
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Don't know anything about Moorfield Semley - before my time, but the dropping of these plans in 2002 seemed to be an instigator of the process to look for a professional partner to take the airport forward which led to Peel.

Newcastle produced Masterplans in 2003 and 2013

There is a Govt. expectation that airports will produce masterplans - this document states:

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.g...rationofai5683

The White Paper The Future of Air Transport (Cm 6046, December 2003) states:
“Airport operators are recommended to maintain a master plan document detailing development proposals. An airport master plan does not have development plan status, but the level of detail contained within it is essential to inform the content of the Local Development Framework. We will expect airport operators to produce master plans or, where appropriate, to update existing master plans to take account of the conclusions on future
development set out in this White Paper.” (paragraphs 12.7, 12.8)
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