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I mentioned before that QR would go daily before EY starts. 
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I mentioned before that QR would go daily before EY starts.
Perhaps EK will be alarmed enough to switch it's GLA late afternoon flight to EDI?
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Add EY to the equation and you have the equivalent of a ME double daily.
Perhaps EK will be alarmed enough to switch it's GLA late afternoon flight to EDI?
Perhaps EK will be alarmed enough to switch it's GLA late afternoon flight to EDI?
This is an EDI thread about EDI. That's what I, and I think (?) everyone else here wants to read about!
Are you clinically unable to stop going on about GLA?? Are you that insecure??
Jesus.
Right, sorry guys, I gave it a try. Back to lurking for 5 years I guess.
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This is an EDI thread about EDI. That's what I, and I think (?) everyone else here wants to read about!
to your 'rule' sir.
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This is a Rumour Network..if it involves not mentioning other airports in supposedly dedicated airport threads there appears to be a lot of ignorance
to your 'rule' sir.
to your 'rule' sir.
I'm here to read about Edinburgh Airport. The thread title says it all. Over and over people have asked you to refrain from subjecting everyone else to your insane obsession.
Do you actually just enjoy being unpopular?
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Probably get flamed for this, but for a market like EDI, from 0 to double daily in less than a year is quite a leap... EDI will handle it but it'll take some work. EY, QR and EK all seem to have the same affinity for making routes work but QR and EY are airlines 2 and 3 in the ME3. But anyway, in terms of EK, they are more likely to cement the cities they currently serve before starting EDI.
GLA will see an A380 and or triple daily and Newcastle will see double daily, first class, all the bells and whistles before EDI starts, if EDI starts for EK. Or that is what would seem to make commercial sense.
GLA will see an A380 and or triple daily and Newcastle will see double daily, first class, all the bells and whistles before EDI starts, if EDI starts for EK. Or that is what would seem to make commercial sense.
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'GLA will see an A380 and or triple daily and Newcastle will see double daily, first class, all the bells and whistles before EDI starts, if EDI starts for EK. Or that is what would seem to make commercial sense.'
Wow, what a bold statement to make
It would make more commercial sense for them to start EDI, a capital city, than to throw everything at two other airports, one of which is 100 miles away. EK have a certain knack for making anything work - an EK flight to EDI would probably work due to how well known EK are over EY and QR.
Also, where is the demand coming from for a triple daily GLA, A380, double daily NCL, First Class etc.?
GLA could maybe sustain it. 3 daily, with first class, with 1 daily A380 is c.450,000 seats per year (2013 - 402,000 pax carried)
NCL double daily with first class would be c.263,000 seats a year (2013 - just under 200k pax carried)
On the face of it it may not seem a huge leap but 1) where are an extra c.50000 pax for GLA and c.63000 pax for NCL coming from and 2) what is to say the First Class demand is actually there?
Also have to bear in mind that particularly nowadays, EK's focus is not primarily on the UK. It is undoubtedly a major market for them, but look at their expansion in N. America and India for example.
Wow, what a bold statement to make
It would make more commercial sense for them to start EDI, a capital city, than to throw everything at two other airports, one of which is 100 miles away. EK have a certain knack for making anything work - an EK flight to EDI would probably work due to how well known EK are over EY and QR.
Also, where is the demand coming from for a triple daily GLA, A380, double daily NCL, First Class etc.?
GLA could maybe sustain it. 3 daily, with first class, with 1 daily A380 is c.450,000 seats per year (2013 - 402,000 pax carried)
NCL double daily with first class would be c.263,000 seats a year (2013 - just under 200k pax carried)
On the face of it it may not seem a huge leap but 1) where are an extra c.50000 pax for GLA and c.63000 pax for NCL coming from and 2) what is to say the First Class demand is actually there?
Also have to bear in mind that particularly nowadays, EK's focus is not primarily on the UK. It is undoubtedly a major market for them, but look at their expansion in N. America and India for example.
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Definitely seeing changes. CAA provisional data from Oct 2014 shows when you compare Sep 14 vs Oct 14; QR from EDI decreases and EK from GLA increases. Looks like QR going to daily is a nervy reaction to getting squeezed by the established double daily 3 class service in GLA and the thought of the impending fisticuffs with EY starting next Spring?
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I've just been looking at the stats, and it shows a 9% drop between last year and this year. That's 3343 less people flying GLA-DXB this year, 35773 people in OCT 2014 compared with 39116 last year.
There was 7607 people flying with Qatar from EDI this month.
With Etihad coming on stream next year the ME routes from Scotland are going to become very competitive and something may have to give.
There was 7607 people flying with Qatar from EDI this month.
With Etihad coming on stream next year the ME routes from Scotland are going to become very competitive and something may have to give.
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CAA provisional data from Oct 2014 shows when you compare Sep 14 vs Oct 14; QR from EDI _*decreases *_and EK from GLA *_increases_*.
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Ohh it's 1990 at GLA with transatlantic flights all over again! 
You know, when the market didn't do what all the marketeers thought it would. #pricewareveryonelost
You know, when the market didn't do what all the marketeers thought it would. #pricewareveryonelost
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eh...no. 1990's transatlantic High fare legacy airlines with high overheads looking for lucrative business class seats vs pile em high low cost base Middle East airlines who have mastered hub competition. The world is a very different place...
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Hardly. It was still spoke to hub at the US end and whereas Emirates pile em high down the back, they give acres of space up front. They also now offer First out of GLA, so while your opinion is noted (and predictable), I stand by my analogy. Are you saying American Airlines can't do hub competition? Come now.....!
Capacity dumping by newcomers into the limited long haul Scottish market meant thin pickings for too many. The world may have changed, but not beyond recognition. QR have form here, they blinked at MAN and drew down capacity, the ME3 are not all one way growth. Having said that I think there's room for all three if they don't go mad.
Capacity dumping by newcomers into the limited long haul Scottish market meant thin pickings for too many. The world may have changed, but not beyond recognition. QR have form here, they blinked at MAN and drew down capacity, the ME3 are not all one way growth. Having said that I think there's room for all three if they don't go mad.