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Old 1st Nov 2014, 12:15
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oooft ! theres going to be a blood bath. Interesting. Would have thought all these current services would need to be going out full high season to warrant an additional US service.
Has PHL been confirmed as remaining (although still bookable ?)
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Old 1st Nov 2014, 14:22
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Its been reported PHL-EDI is being cut to make way for JFK-EDI. FRA has lost a daily PHL and CLT to make way for their flights too.
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Seems PHL is still for the chop, rather than JFK in addition. So the worry of obvious overkill may not be required
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Old 1st Nov 2014, 14:56
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oh yeah that makes far more sense for the population and current pax figure numbers/load factors. Suppose none of it either way has been officially confirmed.
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Old 1st Nov 2014, 20:43
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It would appear that most of the aviation forums are assuming that PHL will be dropped yet it is still bookable. Would it be too much in believing that it will retained for S15?

In previous posts I have thought DL might have tried JFK again but if AA can take a slice of the UA NY cake then all the best them.

What are the chances of UA responding with the 787?

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Old 2nd Nov 2014, 12:36
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Would expect its safe.

One one of the other forums they seem to know how US/AA should operate. One example is DUB-CLT was due to be scrapped in 2013, 2014, 2015 and guess what they now say it will not return for 2016......

Scotland is the type of place that can easily make money peak season but outside of that only reliables like JFK would work.
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Old 2nd Nov 2014, 13:49
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JFK-Scotland hasn't been reliable since Northwest...... BA and Delta both couldn't make it work, though AA on the BA/AA jv might.
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Looking through passenger numbers for Milan and Geneva what would be the chances of Alitalia, Swiss starting 3x respectively.
Alitalia are now starting to expand( abeit slowly ) in Europe again with the E70/75. Would that aircraft fit the route for them?

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Old 2nd Nov 2014, 17:04
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SOE

I agree but NY has the best chance outside of tourist season to work. The success of AA this time will likely depend on pricing ex LHR from both carriers.
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Old 2nd Nov 2014, 19:08
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we are reliably informed by the "armchair enthusiasts" that EDI is a whole different kettle of fish now that GIP are at the helm since that last attempts to JFK. Whether that means relaxed subsidies and get them at any cost is unclear...
We'll no doubt find out next week the fate of PHL after one short season
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 09:38
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SK to open CPH in March operating between 5 and 7 weekly.

SAS launches nine new routes 2015 | SAS
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 11:00
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Atlantic Airways to start a 2x weekly Edinburgh to Vágar route as from March 30, 2015 using Airbus A319.

Atlantic Airways Selects Edinburgh as Gateway to Scotland :: Routesonline
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Atlantic Airways Selects Edinburgh as Gateway to Scotland :: Routesonline

“Among other things, we were persuaded by the opportunities for onward connections at Edinburgh, particularly to London, and by the airport’s ability to service a very much larger catchment area,”

That flies in the face of those who doubt EDI is a hub?
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 20:21
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I beg to differ Joe, as there is only one "hub" in the UK, and that is LHR. Not even LGW or MAN can lay claim to being a "hub" never mind EDI.
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 22:17
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Depends on your definition of a "hub".
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 22:43
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LHR is obviously an undisputed hub, but LGW has a BA hub, and MAN has a flybe hub.
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Old 5th Nov 2014, 07:39
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BA see LGW as point to point leisure, it's not really a hub. This is why BA are happy to bus arriving domestics to arrivals bypassing Flight Connections. The removal of INV/MAN/IOM/NQY/PLH in recent years has only made that worse.
The most serious hub operator at LGW might even be Norwegian who are trying to actually build a hub, remembering the dominat carrier EZY don't even do connections. This is why LGW's current "Obviously" campaign is laughable.
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Old 5th Nov 2014, 08:38
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Suffice to say, EDI isn't a hub. The Hub and Spoke model is pretty simple. Practically all airports offer onward connections, depending on where you want to go. It doesn't make them hubs.
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Old 5th Nov 2014, 14:47
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Suggestion Aer Lingus may keep EDI-LHR link after Little Red leave. (Or at least until they get the slots)
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Old 5th Nov 2014, 15:51
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I am prepared to be corrected but IMHO the slots were awarded to Virgin and if they elect to stop using them the slots revert to IAG so I don't see how EI could continue the EDI LHR service.
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