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I can't see Gulfstream bailing out in a hurry......The experienced engineers are not easy to replace quickly (the company will have invested a lot of time and money in specialist type training).....expecting them to relocate or commute to a new location isn't guaranteed (even if financial incentives are offered!).
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I think the timetable is out by 2020 but it will be a loss to the town of local employees into local economy. LBC shout about new jobs being created in the new zones but have kept very quiet about this.
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I can only repeat what I was told by a council planning officer that while a terminal could be built by using pilings to the solid earth below the council tip an apron could not because there is too much unstable tip to removed first. They would then have to find the soil to get the levels back.
Not saying it could never happen but that is what I was told.
Not saying it could never happen but that is what I was told.
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Waterford Service Postponed
The new Waterford service due to commence next week by Aer Southeast, is now not going ahead and the start date has been postponed...
Apparently the airline did not have a license to sell tickets!
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...unch-1.3146685
Apparently the airline did not have a license to sell tickets!
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...unch-1.3146685
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Construction update
With a biz jet in the background turning onto the existing taxiway the new taxiway extension will make a big difference.
No additional steelwork was added until Friday to allow for plant to be sited on the balcony. Not sure if more steelwork will be added next week or left for a future date.
The exit barriers by the multistory have 5 lanes for the drop off area and 3 lanes for the short term car park. In reality only 4 lanes are normally used as buses and lorries have to use lanes 4 or 5 but only ever seem to use lane 4. The queuing bus traffic for lane 4 stops cars accessing lane 5. This is costing the airport a small fortune as all the barriers have to be lifted to remove the queues.
The airport is now modifying the exit layout to reduce the short term car park to 2 lanes and increasing the drop off zone to 6 lanes.
The following 2 photos shows what happens during an off peak time when someone took their eyes off the length of the queue.
Yes this is the exit lane from the drop off zone where drivers are allowed 10 minutes to off load and get past the exist barriers on the opposite side of the CTA. At its peak it was taking 15 to 20 minutes to get to the barriers which is not good for the shuttle service to the station.
No additional steelwork was added until Friday to allow for plant to be sited on the balcony. Not sure if more steelwork will be added next week or left for a future date.
The exit barriers by the multistory have 5 lanes for the drop off area and 3 lanes for the short term car park. In reality only 4 lanes are normally used as buses and lorries have to use lanes 4 or 5 but only ever seem to use lane 4. The queuing bus traffic for lane 4 stops cars accessing lane 5. This is costing the airport a small fortune as all the barriers have to be lifted to remove the queues.
The airport is now modifying the exit layout to reduce the short term car park to 2 lanes and increasing the drop off zone to 6 lanes.
The following 2 photos shows what happens during an off peak time when someone took their eyes off the length of the queue.
Yes this is the exit lane from the drop off zone where drivers are allowed 10 minutes to off load and get past the exist barriers on the opposite side of the CTA. At its peak it was taking 15 to 20 minutes to get to the barriers which is not good for the shuttle service to the station.
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I used the mid term car park last week to pick someone up, using the 15 minutes free parking. When I went to go out it was chaos at the barrier. By the time I got there I had been in the car park for 25 minutes, I was all prepared for a rant into the machine, but fortunately I put my ticket in and the barrier went up! The question is, do you actually get more than 15 minutes or was someone aware what was happening!
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One of the prime reasons given for the "improvements" to the airport was to finally sort out the chronic traffic congestion on the approach roads thus the remodeling of the CTA and the building of the new dual carriageway.
£14 million later, which was the value of the road building contract and there is not a jot of difference with traffic queuing this morning all the way down to the railway bridge by the railway station.
In fact I lie, the difference is that all public transport including the station shuttle buses that used to queue to get into the airport but could leave with ease now have to also queue to leave the airport as well. This has resulted in even longer queues to actually get on the buses as there are no buses to catch. A bus on a single round trip to the station and back is taking up to an hour to complete a 2 mile round trip. This is even worse than the streets of central London in the rush hour.
The frustrating part is that a junction has been built from the bus station across the duel carriageway straight onto the exit route by the tunnel but it can't be used without traffic signals. With the airport losing money by having to keep lifting the barriers to release the outbound traffic they are spending money putting in an extra lane which will increase income but the airport is doing nothing regarding the total disaster called the drop off zone or putting in traffic signals for the bus station.
It is somewhat breathtaking how a traffic improvement scheme including building a dual carriageway has completely failed to address the issue of congestion and has in fact made it worse for public transport that has to now queue to leave the airport.
£14 million later, which was the value of the road building contract and there is not a jot of difference with traffic queuing this morning all the way down to the railway bridge by the railway station.
In fact I lie, the difference is that all public transport including the station shuttle buses that used to queue to get into the airport but could leave with ease now have to also queue to leave the airport as well. This has resulted in even longer queues to actually get on the buses as there are no buses to catch. A bus on a single round trip to the station and back is taking up to an hour to complete a 2 mile round trip. This is even worse than the streets of central London in the rush hour.
The frustrating part is that a junction has been built from the bus station across the duel carriageway straight onto the exit route by the tunnel but it can't be used without traffic signals. With the airport losing money by having to keep lifting the barriers to release the outbound traffic they are spending money putting in an extra lane which will increase income but the airport is doing nothing regarding the total disaster called the drop off zone or putting in traffic signals for the bus station.
It is somewhat breathtaking how a traffic improvement scheme including building a dual carriageway has completely failed to address the issue of congestion and has in fact made it worse for public transport that has to now queue to leave the airport.
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The airport's 'Transform' newsletter for Summer 2017 has been released on their website:
https://online.flippingbook.com/view/45356/
Ironic that one of the headlines and articles is about access - "New dual carriageway significantly improves journey times to LLA" !
https://online.flippingbook.com/view/45356/
Ironic that one of the headlines and articles is about access - "New dual carriageway significantly improves journey times to LLA" !
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Am I correct in thinking, if for any reason a driver enters the CTA and goes under the taxiway, the only way to get out will be by paying £3 drop off fee?
When I came up to the airport about two weeks ago on the rail-link bus, once passed the Holiday Inn Express roundabout there was no way of turning around (from what I could see), in-case you've taken the wrong exit off the roundabout.
Even the bus going back to the station had to go via the barriers!
Also there is so much sign posting and advertising as you enter the airport roads, it could be quite easy to take the wrong turn or enter the CTA in error, if you are a new passenger or unfamiliar with the airport.
When I came up to the airport about two weeks ago on the rail-link bus, once passed the Holiday Inn Express roundabout there was no way of turning around (from what I could see), in-case you've taken the wrong exit off the roundabout.
Even the bus going back to the station had to go via the barriers!
Also there is so much sign posting and advertising as you enter the airport roads, it could be quite easy to take the wrong turn or enter the CTA in error, if you are a new passenger or unfamiliar with the airport.
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You are right, I made that mistake a few weeks ago and there is no way to escape without paying the £3 fee. However I did explain my mistake to the man on the barrier who let me out without charge...
On another note, I was being nosey earlier today and noticed LLA own a substantial plot of land named 'Winch Hill Farm' to the south of runway 26 which was purchased in 2015, does anyone have any idea what the airport is planning to do with the land?
On another note, I was being nosey earlier today and noticed LLA own a substantial plot of land named 'Winch Hill Farm' to the south of runway 26 which was purchased in 2015, does anyone have any idea what the airport is planning to do with the land?
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You are right, I made that mistake a few weeks ago and there is no way to escape without paying the £3 fee. However I did explain my mistake to the man on the barrier who let me out without charge...
On another note, I was being nosey earlier today and noticed LLA own a substantial plot of land named 'Winch Hill Farm' to the south of runway 26 which was purchased in 2015, does anyone have any idea what the airport is planning to do with the land?
On another note, I was being nosey earlier today and noticed LLA own a substantial plot of land named 'Winch Hill Farm' to the south of runway 26 which was purchased in 2015, does anyone have any idea what the airport is planning to do with the land?
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You are right, I made that mistake a few weeks ago and there is no way to escape without paying the £3 fee. However I did explain my mistake to the man on the barrier who let me out without charge...
On another note, I was being nosey earlier today and noticed LLA own a substantial plot of land named 'Winch Hill Farm' to the south of runway 26 which was purchased in 2015, does anyone have any idea what the airport is planning to do with the land?
The farm borders Wigmore Park so part of the farmland will be used for Century Park business park which they will own and the new Wigmore Park. If you Google the name of the farm you will see photos of the abandoned farmhouse that has been abandoned maybe 30 years ago. There were plans to turn the farmhouse into the clubhouse of a proposed golf course that was never built.
photos here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wi...iw=800&bih=386
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