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Old 28th Jun 2017, 20:53
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Luton could indeed handle more than 18 million passengers if those additional passengers arrived and departed during off peak times and in the middle of the night. The beauty of the Wizz operation is that most of their aircraft are not Luton based so their peaks are different from easyjet meaning the airport stays busier for longer.
A good example is tonight. Between 19:50 and 21:20 there are 13 Wizz arrivals and nothing else.

There was mention that 3 Wizz aircraft now night stop at Luton. I can't see more than 2 including the one based at Luton.

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Wizz night stoppers tonight
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 17:10
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Wizz increasing SOF from 17 to 19pw in S18
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 18:38
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This is the ground floor of pier B. Looks like for the apron there are 3 pre boarding areas with just a staircase in orange at the far end for the 4th stand.

On the coach side there are again 3 holding areas with no holding area for the 4th staircase. Coach departures and arrivals will be from the south side.The corridor in the middle is for arrivals.

The plans might have changed since this was published though.


I have been having another close look at pier B now that the glass is going in on the apron side and have come to the conclusion that sometimes I post complete rubbish.

I mentioned in the above post that 3 pre-boarding lounges are going in on the ground floor as per the drawing but they are not lounges in the drawing but ground floor recesses just like the ones that were filled in on pier A a few months ago. Seems like passengers will be queuing on the stairs as before. Bizarre how pier A gets its recesses filled in only to be replaced by new recesses on pier B but saying that pier A had recesses on both the ground and first floor. Pier B has its recesses on the ground floor only. It is another lost opportunity to maximize all available potential space that will no doubt be corrected in the years to come with another infill.

As stated before the coach side is flush so no recesses on that side but I have no idea what the gained space will be used for.



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LTNman - Thanks for clarifying what I thought looking at it the other day! Utterly bonkers airport design. At least it appears that the bus gates will have pre boarding rooms.
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I am going to have to have another look just to confirm that it is only the ground floor with the recess and not the first floor as well. The artist impression shows only the ground floor is recessed with the upstairs supported on pillars but I am now thinking it was upstairs as well when I had a look. I will report back with my findings.

I still think a few airbridges would not go amiss to attract more full fare airlines.

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Construction update

The infill continues


This is pier A's infill completed a few months ago which were put in to maximize the space on the first floor and to create pre-boarding zones on the ground floor.


By contrast pier B has the old style recesses which will no doubt be filled in sometime in the future. It seems a somewhat strange decision not to also maximize the available space for pier B.


The coach side of pier B continues to be clad. This pier does not conform to either the submitted drawings or artist impressions.
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But what has conformed to either the submitted drawings or artist impressions, looking back at all the impresssions that were originally released detailing the huge redevelopment at Luton but the result so far has a lot to be desired.
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I know what you mean but most plans are sort of right but some of the artist impressions have not lived up to expectations.

This youtube video is the most accurate with regards to the finish. It even has the correct shape to pier B on both sides that I missed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTgxN1-y3Lw
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The Formula 1circus are on the move again next week to Graz in Austria. For those interested the flights are as follows:
To Graz
Wednesday: Mistral Air B737-400 M48011
Thursday: Mistral Air B737-400 M48032; Cityjet F100 WX9352 (probably operated by Carpatair)
From Graz:
Sunday: Germania A319 ST6365
Monday: Mistral B737-400 M48013; Austrian A320 OS265
Hope not to 'spotterish' I hope.
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Another lost opportunity at Luton or a facility to stand on it's own two feet once a big squeeze on movements really kicks in?
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It seems the Engine Bay is going to be reserved for Biz Jet overflow parking during the traditionally busiest period of the year (Wimbledon final week)
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And F1 Silverstone.

I was told today that the new timetable proposed for the 'Thameslink' to London which should see an increase in the number of trains per hour is under serious threat! Apparently the brand new rolling stock has a reliability matching that of those much older units, around 4,000 hours between breakdowns!
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There will still be a standard 6 Thameslink trains an hour from Parkway with some trains running faster and some trains running slower to fit into the rerouting of trains from places like Peterborough and Cambridge that will for the first time run through central London.

The benefit to the airport has been the introduction of 12 car trains and not the proposed timetable changes which can be found here https://www.transformingrail.com/. The new trains are superb and have no doors between carriages and even show on screens where the empty seats are. That is why the new EM franchise is so important to the airport to get more non stop train services calling in at Parkway.
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The new trains may be a vast improvement visually but plenty of folks are moaning about the hard, uncomfortable seats!
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Unless their reliability increases substantially, the increase frequency will not occur during 2018.
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Old 3rd Jul 2017, 16:10
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With the North West Corner apron repaired after the removal of fencing and portocabins it has gone back into full use for parking biz jets.

I was looking at Signatures apron today that is next to Hangar 125, which is the Gulfstream hangar. It was created after an old hangar was knocked down maybe 2 or 3 years ago to replace lost parking on the Pond that has gone back to the airport for overnight parking.

Plenty of room there for a big hangar extension to Hangar 125 which could keep Gulfstream at Luton. It won't happen as Signature need the apron but if Gulfstream does move out of Luton it will be a significant event as it will be the first major consequence of airport expansion that has had such a negative impact on an existing business that they will be forced to move out of Luton.
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If Gulfstream do leave, could EZY take their hangar? How many Airbus could you fit in?
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Not as many as easyjet's existing hangar. Just guessing but maybe two. It would also screw up using the NW corner for biz jet parking as they would have to be moved every time an aircraft needed to enter or leaver the hangar.
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
And F1 Silverstone.

I was told today that the new timetable proposed for the 'Thameslink' to London which should see an increase in the number of trains per hour is under serious threat! Apparently the brand new rolling stock has a reliability matching that of those much older units, around 4,000 hours between breakdowns!
I think you mean 4,000 miles between breakdowns. I'm sure Thameslink would be delighted if the figure was 4,000 hours!
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