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London Southend Airport in Essex expects to carry two million passengers by 2015
I think terminal stand capacity could become a problem once much more than 2 mppa is reached, there being only 10 of them.
Remote stands using buses could be used but the distance of those from the terminal will make the whole operation rather messy, although that's not to say they won't do it.
Remote stands using buses could be used but the distance of those from the terminal will make the whole operation rather messy, although that's not to say they won't do it.
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Pax Numbers
Ltnman I shouldn't spend too much time hunched over your crystal ball. It has been in the public domain for sometime that SEN is aiming for 5m pax per annum and has the capacity to handle that number.
What capacity / planning limits or other constraints for passenger numbers are there on Southend at the moment, assuming that airline and passenger demand exists ? I'm particularly interested in the constraints which are more difficult to get round - I presume that it would not be too difficult to persuade and allow an aircraft handling company to set up shop at SEN.
I'm not saying that 2m pax will be reached in 2015 - just want to know what obstacles there are to going over that target
I'm not saying that 2m pax will be reached in 2015 - just want to know what obstacles there are to going over that target
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Ltnman I shouldn't spend too much time hunched over your crystal ball. It has been in the public domain for sometime that SEN is aiming for 5m pax per annum and has the capacity to handle that number.
I tell you what I see in my crystal ball.
Remote stands.
Long term parking on the other side of the airport.
Car hire a bus ride away
Queues. etc.....
This is not a criticism of Southend but like LTN this is the only way the airport can grow.
I think there are a few here who haven't latched on to Southend's potential growth. It might take a few years but it will happen. That delightful Southend experience could soon be a thing of the past because Stobart isn't going to turn away business.
Have faith.
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There is no planning constraint on numbers of terminal passengers. That 2m ppa figure was a conceptual figure or a target that seemed attainable from the standpoint of five years ago and although it was part of the planning application it did not translate into a planning restriction. At some point however Stobart may need to obtain planning permission for developments to support a throughput greater than 2m ppa. Extra car parking provision looks essential, and on the airfield itself more stands and improvements to taxiways could be needed. I suppose at that juncture the planning authority could call a halt if it considered growth had gone too far but I am not sure that is likely.
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The airport is limited to 53,300 movements per annum. If all of these movements were related to full A320's that would equate to approx 5m pax. Of course the actual number is likelier to be lower with the use of the A319 and other smaller aircraft.
The airport is limited to 53,300 movements per annum. If all of these movements were related to full A320's that would equate to approx 5m pax. Of course the actual number is likelier to be lower with the use of the A319 and other smaller aircraft.
Wrong, and by a large margin. Some simple maths:
A319, 156 seats, 53300 movements = 8.31m ppa
A320, 180 seats, 53300 movements = 9.59m ppa
Yes of course they could make application to raise the movements cap as other airports have done though that does not necessarily imply such application would be approved.
Wrong, and by a large margin. Some simple maths:
A319, 156 seats, 53300 movements = 8.31m ppa
A320, 180 seats, 53300 movements = 9.59m ppa
Yes of course they could make application to raise the movements cap as other airports have done though that does not necessarily imply such application would be approved.
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Easyjet winter timetable
Does anyone know where I can find the easyjet winter timetable for Southend? I tried looking on the Easyjet website but it wasn't clear. (tried some random routes and there didn't seem to be many flights)
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Looks as though Jersey (as it stands) ends 1st November 2014, and some of the other destinations' frequencies seem a bit light. I haven't had a chance to have detailed look but unless they are to announce some new destinations, it seems to me as though they may be cutting an aircraft next winter, leaving possibly 3 A319s and the A320 for the Tenerife route.
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Think it is 2 A319's and an A320 next winter but could be wrong. This is based on the week Feb 16th to 23rd 2015, when it seems to get a bit busier. Not sure how this compares to the winter just gone.
ALC - 7x weekly
AMS - 17x weekly
BCN - 7x weekly
SXF - 5x weekly
FAO - 3x weekly
GVA - 7x weekly
AGP - 4x weekly
TFS - 2x weekly
VCE - 4x weekly
TOTAL: 56 per week
Can anyone please tell me if this is a reduction compared to the winter just gone? I'd say it looks like it but might not be.
There's still the chance of new routes but it seems a common theme across most EZY bases this year that people seem reasonably disappointed with the winter offering.
ALC - 7x weekly
AMS - 17x weekly
BCN - 7x weekly
SXF - 5x weekly
FAO - 3x weekly
GVA - 7x weekly
AGP - 4x weekly
TFS - 2x weekly
VCE - 4x weekly
TOTAL: 56 per week
Can anyone please tell me if this is a reduction compared to the winter just gone? I'd say it looks like it but might not be.
There's still the chance of new routes but it seems a common theme across most EZY bases this year that people seem reasonably disappointed with the winter offering.
There is a lot of variation in frequencies over the Winter 2014/15 period. Taking the week from 16th February can be a little misleading as it includes the Valentine's Day/school half-term period flights.
Looking at mid November (the quietest time perhaps) there looks to be a reduction of around 15% compared with November 2013. The routes not operating at all this November compared to last are JER, KRK, EDI, BFS and PMI. Additions this November are TFS and GVA compared to last year, with a large increase in the AMS frequencies.
Three aircraft are required on Mondays, Fridays and Saturdays by the look of it, with the A320 required on Wednesday and Saturday for TFS.
Looking at mid November (the quietest time perhaps) there looks to be a reduction of around 15% compared with November 2013. The routes not operating at all this November compared to last are JER, KRK, EDI, BFS and PMI. Additions this November are TFS and GVA compared to last year, with a large increase in the AMS frequencies.
Three aircraft are required on Mondays, Fridays and Saturdays by the look of it, with the A320 required on Wednesday and Saturday for TFS.
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Are there any gaps in the schedule suitable for a new route?
With the dumping of CPH from STN (was some time in the 1970s the last time no one has operated that route?) that could be a good route from SEN for the inbound potential.
With the dumping of CPH from STN (was some time in the 1970s the last time no one has operated that route?) that could be a good route from SEN for the inbound potential.
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I just had a look at what - presumably - will be one of the quietest days of all - Tuesday 13 January 2015.
Currently only 2 Easyjet departures from SEN shown for the whole day - an Amsterdam and a Faro!! Not so good!!!
Hope there is still time for more to be added!!!!
Currently only 2 Easyjet departures from SEN shown for the whole day - an Amsterdam and a Faro!! Not so good!!!
Hope there is still time for more to be added!!!!
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Very little different to Tuesday 14 January 2014 actually, when there was also just a FAO and AMS departure, plus TFS (this now moving to a Wednesday next year from Tuesday last January).
I have been told that the SEN base will comprise just 3 x A319s this winter, plus an A320 as required for the TFS, which is obviously all that the timetable seems to need.
I wonder if Flybe/Stobart Air would look at doing JER this winter, perhaps twice weekly.
Very little different to Tuesday 14 January 2014 actually, when there was also just a FAO and AMS departure, plus TFS (this now moving to a Wednesday next year from Tuesday last January).
I have been told that the SEN base will comprise just 3 x A319s this winter, plus an A320 as required for the TFS, which is obviously all that the timetable seems to need.
I wonder if Flybe/Stobart Air would look at doing JER this winter, perhaps twice weekly.