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The perception as given out regularly by HM Govt is that thousands will arrive in the UK with a 'hand out' booth at the end of the red carpet (EU freedom of movement rules), I just wondered how big the booth would have to be in the tinminal and are we talking about miles of red carpet?
I am hearing that the new RSS stands are 'not that big'?
I am hearing that the new RSS stands are 'not that big'?
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A1248/13 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QMPCS/IV/M /A /000/999/5152N00022W005
A) EGGW B) 1303300001 C) 1304180001
E) TWO NEW ACFT PARKING STANDS 80 AND 81, ESTABLISHED FOR RSS JET
CENTRE ADJ TWY ECHO
CREATED: 29 Mar 2013 19:01:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN
RSS/ Ocean Sky's second apron. South stands are now empty.
Q) EGTT/QMPCS/IV/M /A /000/999/5152N00022W005
A) EGGW B) 1303300001 C) 1304180001
E) TWO NEW ACFT PARKING STANDS 80 AND 81, ESTABLISHED FOR RSS JET
CENTRE ADJ TWY ECHO
CREATED: 29 Mar 2013 19:01:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN
RSS/ Ocean Sky's second apron. South stands are now empty.
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I gather the south stands are going to be used more for commercial passenger traffic ahead of the summer season?
Isn't there a bit more land around President Way that could be utilised better for hard standing?
Isn't there a bit more land around President Way that could be utilised better for hard standing?
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I can't see the south stands being used for boarding passenger flights for at least a couple of years if not longer. The pinch point is passengers passing through security. Until that is fixed extra stands are pointless. The South Stands will more than likely be used for aircraft that are not required to fly for a few days or are in for maintenance thus creating space on the hangar line.
As for President Way apart from the new Signature hangar which is being started this year there is no spare land that I know about.
As for President Way apart from the new Signature hangar which is being started this year there is no spare land that I know about.
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Maybe South Stands for overflow on charters, Champions League coming up where their might be a few nightstops.
President Way, only if you move the road plan and eat up Car Parking, reducing other income, and that moves you nearer to residentual housing which will create issues etc.
Only thing would be to move the 'tidy tip', Long Term Car Car, now thats an option.....?
President Way, only if you move the road plan and eat up Car Parking, reducing other income, and that moves you nearer to residentual housing which will create issues etc.
Only thing would be to move the 'tidy tip', Long Term Car Car, now thats an option.....?
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I am hearing that the new RSS stands are 'not that big'?
They are certainly not big and LTNMAN's wide angle photo's are deceptive!
The tug drivers are going to be very busy with careful juggling required to make the most of the space and I think half a dozen G550's or Global's will pretty much fill-up most of the space unless cramming in is performed!!
They are certainly not big and LTNMAN's wide angle photo's are deceptive!
The tug drivers are going to be very busy with careful juggling required to make the most of the space and I think half a dozen G550's or Global's will pretty much fill-up most of the space unless cramming in is performed!!
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There is a plan to knock down building 56 and square off the new apron.
This is how it is now with the new west and east apron and building 56 at the top. The plan shows 12 aircraft including two 737's. They also have their ex-Monarch hangar to park aircraft.
This is how it is now with the new west and east apron and building 56 at the top. The plan shows 12 aircraft including two 737's. They also have their ex-Monarch hangar to park aircraft.
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Maybe South Stands for overflow on charters, Champions League coming up where their might be a few nightstops.
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Sterling, Dan-Air, diversions or another big charter day?
I remember a snow day & another fog day at LGW brought lots of DanAir & Laker. Of course DanAir had a base here then so it was a natural place to divert to.
I remember a snow day & another fog day at LGW brought lots of DanAir & Laker. Of course DanAir had a base here then so it was a natural place to divert to.
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My photo has appeared here before so apologies to those who remember it.
Taken in the days when Luton also had 2 finger stands. The event was a football charter. I can remember that returning passengers never went through the terminal and were taken straight to their aircraft on the coaches they arrived on.
Not sure if the building on the right is the spectators building or the domestic terminal that was built but never used. I seem to remember the spectators building was made out of wood but I think it went through a transition when the domestic terminal was built.
Edit. Just found another photo taken from the lighting tower showing Concord as is passes a very crowded spectators area. The wooden building was a nice shade of yellow! No south stands in those days just a mass of grass.
It was a cheap family day out visiting the spectator’s area at Luton. You could have a meal and visit the bar plus there was also a small shop selling aircraft magazines etc.
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The pic looks like the visitors for the European Cup Winners Cup final on 12/05/93
It's hard to believe this was twenty years ago!......I remember it well and recall a Martinair DC-10 landing deep on 08 and only just stopping in the 26 turning circle with reversers and brakes howling!
It's hard to believe this was twenty years ago!......I remember it well and recall a Martinair DC-10 landing deep on 08 and only just stopping in the 26 turning circle with reversers and brakes howling!
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Drop Off Fees Raise There Ugly Head Again...
Another day of bad press for Luton Airport...
Looks like the fees have gone up from £1 to £2 from today, but have generously increased the drop off time from 10 to 15mins!
Not sure if this has been discussed previously, but not read about it on here.
They had the airport on BBC 3CR this morning, and the airport didn't come out well, when they were interviewed and trying to justify the increase... The general consensus from listeners was how greedy the airport was been and were just out to milk the passengers.
The airport tried to justify this, by saying how they offer a free 30 mins in the Mid-Stay Car Park, and passengers will be whisked to the terminal in 60 seconds by bus! This also blew up in the airports faces and had listeners calling in saying how they have waited 20 mins for a bus in the past and also you do not need 15 mins to drop passengers off!
Not a good marketing day for the airport, and trying to deceive regular loyal and local passengers by a marketing department using smoke and mirrors is not a good move!
You can listen to the interview here, and fast forward to about 1hr 55 into the show:
BBC Three Counties Radio - The JVS Show, 02/04/2013
Looks like the fees have gone up from £1 to £2 from today, but have generously increased the drop off time from 10 to 15mins!
Not sure if this has been discussed previously, but not read about it on here.
They had the airport on BBC 3CR this morning, and the airport didn't come out well, when they were interviewed and trying to justify the increase... The general consensus from listeners was how greedy the airport was been and were just out to milk the passengers.
The airport tried to justify this, by saying how they offer a free 30 mins in the Mid-Stay Car Park, and passengers will be whisked to the terminal in 60 seconds by bus! This also blew up in the airports faces and had listeners calling in saying how they have waited 20 mins for a bus in the past and also you do not need 15 mins to drop passengers off!
Not a good marketing day for the airport, and trying to deceive regular loyal and local passengers by a marketing department using smoke and mirrors is not a good move!
You can listen to the interview here, and fast forward to about 1hr 55 into the show:
BBC Three Counties Radio - The JVS Show, 02/04/2013
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The word spin comes to mind after hearing the show.
The problem the press department stupidly didn't realise or under-estimated was they were broadcasting to Herts, Beds and Bucks, which contains probably the airports most frequent and loyalist users of the airport and are fully aware of how the existing Drop Off Zone works and that parking at the Mid-Stay Car Park isn;t as straight forward as the airport claimed.
Especially when travelling with a family or lots of luggage!
If the marketing department had broadcast to an area not familiar with the airport, then listeners would probably have bought what they said.
An interesting article on Wizzair:
Wizz Air: why Europe’s second lowest cost producer may be looking for fresh capital: IPO time? | CAPA - Centre for Aviation
Says that LTN is their largest operation (would they wish to upset that by moving it elsewhere?) with 63,360 seats per week, 36% larger than Budapest, in at number two.
It also says that at LTN, EasyJet is number one with 47.9% of the seats, followed by WZZ (27.8%) and Ryanair (17.1%). No surprise there!
Wizz Air: why Europe’s second lowest cost producer may be looking for fresh capital: IPO time? | CAPA - Centre for Aviation
Says that LTN is their largest operation (would they wish to upset that by moving it elsewhere?) with 63,360 seats per week, 36% larger than Budapest, in at number two.
It also says that at LTN, EasyJet is number one with 47.9% of the seats, followed by WZZ (27.8%) and Ryanair (17.1%). No surprise there!
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Bulgarians & Romanians...
jdcg,
I am in full agreement with you.
This has been going on for some while and is a bit tiresome.
I wish the mods would put a stop to it...
Fast Eddie
I am in full agreement with you.
This has been going on for some while and is a bit tiresome.
I wish the mods would put a stop to it...
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Speccies / Exec Terminal
"Not sure if the building on the right is the spectators building or the domestic terminal"...
Nice retro shot...
The building on the right is what was referred to as the "Executive Terminal" and was lightly (or never) used as such. It was certainly used as an exhibition area for Airport open days around that time as I recall, and I remember using it (with a hi-lo provided by the Airport) as a back-drop in a photo-shoot for a Vauxhall piece I did for a motoring magazine in 1994-ish...
It was of course later passed over to easyJet when they started Ops at LTN, expanded / painted orange and has been referred to as "easyLand" ever since.
Interesting that there is no sign of the Spectators' Building in this image. That was situated to the left of the Exec' Terminal in this picture - and thus clearly hadn't been built then of course.
When I started working at LTN full-time in 1996 "Speccies" was there and in use (but not much it has to be said). Apparently none of the operators that took the lease on the Cafe and Bookshop were really able to make it pay, and I especially remember that the "Spectators' Car Park" situated there had some very dodgy entrance barriers which worked on a token system and which were easily errmmm... 'manipulated' - so little revenue was generated there either. Hence it's eventual demise
Fast Eddie
Nice retro shot...
The building on the right is what was referred to as the "Executive Terminal" and was lightly (or never) used as such. It was certainly used as an exhibition area for Airport open days around that time as I recall, and I remember using it (with a hi-lo provided by the Airport) as a back-drop in a photo-shoot for a Vauxhall piece I did for a motoring magazine in 1994-ish...
It was of course later passed over to easyJet when they started Ops at LTN, expanded / painted orange and has been referred to as "easyLand" ever since.
Interesting that there is no sign of the Spectators' Building in this image. That was situated to the left of the Exec' Terminal in this picture - and thus clearly hadn't been built then of course.
When I started working at LTN full-time in 1996 "Speccies" was there and in use (but not much it has to be said). Apparently none of the operators that took the lease on the Cafe and Bookshop were really able to make it pay, and I especially remember that the "Spectators' Car Park" situated there had some very dodgy entrance barriers which worked on a token system and which were easily errmmm... 'manipulated' - so little revenue was generated there either. Hence it's eventual demise
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...and of course "Speccies" eventually made way for the Ocean Sky FBO facility there.
No element of "Speccies" structure was incorporated into the FBO, indeed there was a 'void' in that area for a while at least (2003 - 2005-ish? - anyone remember better than I do?). Because I know for sure that for a week or so during that time easyJet erected a marquee there for the press launch of their new LTN - Berlin-Schonefeld route.
Just a little bit of Airport history for the record...
Fast Eddie.
No element of "Speccies" structure was incorporated into the FBO, indeed there was a 'void' in that area for a while at least (2003 - 2005-ish? - anyone remember better than I do?). Because I know for sure that for a week or so during that time easyJet erected a marquee there for the press launch of their new LTN - Berlin-Schonefeld route.
Just a little bit of Airport history for the record...
Fast Eddie.