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Old 20th Mar 2013, 15:27
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Let’s not forget that SEN only have a few flights first thing in the morning and one or two per hour, throughout the rest of the day, I have read many articles regarding the speed of progressing passengers through LCY but when you consider the average passenger load is about 45 as opposed to Luton’s 136 it is hardly surprising. From all my years of flying, I stick to the ‘standard’ which is to arrive at the airport a minimum two hours before a flight.
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Old 20th Mar 2013, 18:14
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Seems to just an early morning issue although that is no excuse but with the overflow security area in use the queues become manageable. Just a shame that Luton is a victim of its own success.
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Old 20th Mar 2013, 21:42
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Any new stand numberings for the new VVIP complex as there will be two new areas?
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To be fair to David I think he raises a valid point about security and I don't think getting to the airport, one and quarter hours before departure is cutting it fine, especially if you are only travelling with hand baggage!

Many Low Cost Airlines only open check-in two hours before departure and can easily take 30+ minutes to drop the bags off and boarding passes (That is the same at many airports)...

So, by the time you have done check-in, you are in the realms of queuing at Security at around the same time David is, who has just turned up with his hand luggage.

Im not on here to knock Luton again, but I think us LTN fans forget, how much better facilities can be and are at other UK airports. Was at East Midlands the other week on a 6.30 departure and sailed through security in less than five mins and Birmingham a few weeks earlier and took no more than ten-fifteen minutes.

Birmingham is only marginally quieter than Luton and East Midlands is a fair bit more, but both airports were busy at the time and just shows they can manage their security queue flows at peak times and have enough lanes open to match demand.
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Old 20th Mar 2013, 22:17
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Any new stand numberings for the new VVIP complex as there will be two new areas?
Nothing NOTAM'ed yet

Birmingham is only marginally quieter than Luton and East Midlands is a fair bit more, but both airports were busy at the time and just shows they can manage their security queue flows at peak times and have enough lanes open to match demand.
Yes but what is Luton like now when Security Zone Two is open as davidjohnson6 was talking about his visit last spring before it opened?

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Old 21st Mar 2013, 06:01
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Well, I last travelled through Luton on Monday, 4 March at 0530, near the peak time for queues, with a flight at 0715, and I have to say, I was quite surprised how easy it was getting through security. Yes, it was very busy, but all the gates seemed to be open, and there certainly wasn't any waiting on the stairs, 15 mins max to to reach the departure lounge. On my return, a few days later, we arrived back at 19.50, and ok, the airport was reasonably quiet, but from aircraft steps to the pick up zone, including luggage retrieval, was 20 mins. I think that was a record for me. I had no complaints and was probably lucky to some extent. The challenge for the airport is to make that more the 'norm' and that probably wont happen until the terminal expansion is approved, and an enlarged security is moved downstairs.

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Old 21st Mar 2013, 07:16
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Well there is one major stakeholder suffering because of queues, other than the passenger - and that is London Luton Airport.

Its within their interests to get passengers through security quickly; it gives them more time to go shopping. No doubt the airport gets a % of all sales.
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Old 21st Mar 2013, 11:14
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Grrr

Absolutely Dannyboy.
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Old 22nd Mar 2013, 12:43
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FEBRUARY PASSENGER FIGURES

The February 2013 passenger statistics have now appeared on the CAA website. A total of 578,646 passengers used the airport down 0.5 per cent on 2012. The rolling 12 month figures is 9,599,744 up 0.8 per cent.
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 11:30
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A lot of departures into Israel today ahead of the Passover festival. A couple of charters into Eilat-Ovda, as well as the normal routes into Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv.

Will the El Al B777 be putting in an appearance in the next few days?
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 15:33
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Naw just 767-300's as far as I am aware.

I notice a thomas cook 757 flight due tonight from tel aviv is now cancelled.
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 19:21
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Talking El Al 777's @LTN...

Will the El Al B777 be putting in an appearance in the next few days?
Just done a search on El Al's booking website, doesn't look like El Al are increasing capacity as much as they have previous years, with no multiple daily frequencies next week, but it could be possible flights are booked up and not showing in the booking engine as sold out.

BUT, Wednesday's flight LY312 with a departure time of 12.30pm from LTN is showing as a 777-300!

All the other flights which are showing as having seats available this week are scheduled to be 767-200/300's...
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 20:03
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73W - is a Boeing 737-700NG !
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 21:10
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73W - is a Boeing 737-700NG !
I have no issue with people correcting me, when making a valid point, but when the person trying to correct me, cannot even be bothered to verify the information, that annoys me and pure laziness!

Just to confirm what I posted earlier is correct, I have cut and pasted the information from El Al's website!

Flight 1 Wednesday, March 27, 2013
Departure: 12:30 London, United Kingdom - Luton
Arrival: 19:25 Tel Aviv Yafo, Israel - Ben Gurion International, terminal 3


Airline: El Al Israel Airlines LY312 e Duration: 4:55
Aircraft: Boeing 777-200/300ER
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 21:33
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Mr Gilesdavies

Apologies thought I had linked it.

Anyway telex print out actually says a B762 on Wednesday with a 763 on Thursday.
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Mr Gilesdavies

Apologies thought I had linked it.

Anyway telex print out actually says a B762 on Wednesday with a 763 on Thursday.
My apologies too, I shouldn't posted in frustration!

You could well be right about the aircraft type then, if you have access to industry related systems... I could only go by the information in the public domain, and that being the El Al website.

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Old 24th Mar 2013, 23:15
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Amadeus and Sabre system says it will be a B777-200 on 27th.
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Old 25th Mar 2013, 06:17
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EXTRA RYANAIR FLIGHTS

At a quick glance looks like Ryanair´seem to be operating an increasing number of ´W´ patterns - i.e. the first Dublin this morning (Monday) and a Malta during the week. With the start of the summer timetable it will be interesting to see how they pan out. Good for the airport in extra pax and not taking up stands overnight.
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Old 25th Mar 2013, 07:40
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LY213

Hello gilesdavies,
I thought your request for info regarding this flight was interesting. I found one site stating the flight will be on a Boeing 767-200 and according to SeatGuru the service will be operated by a Boeing 777-200! Like yourself I am none the wiser!
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 20:47
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El Al

Flights now showing as a 777-200 tomorrow morning and an Arkia 757 late afternoon.
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