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Adria...
Anyone know if Adria will be making a return to Luton this summer, operating to Ljubljana?
Or has the chances of this been obliterated, with Wizz now flying the route?
There website doesn't make any mention of this, but I don't think it was announced last year until about February or March.
Also for the Luton Fanboys on here, there is a nice article in Airways Magazine about Luton.
Airways Magazine - A Global Review of Commercial Flight
Or has the chances of this been obliterated, with Wizz now flying the route?
There website doesn't make any mention of this, but I don't think it was announced last year until about February or March.
Also for the Luton Fanboys on here, there is a nice article in Airways Magazine about Luton.
Airways Magazine - A Global Review of Commercial Flight
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In a corporate presentation outlining their plans for basing more aircraft in Ukraine, Wizz show two additional routes from LTN to Ukraine (Donestsk in the east and Lviv in the west - the latter previously served from LTN IIRC).
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LTNman, Northern exit/entry at platform 1 at Parkway almost complete, helpoint live so you should be able to get to new hotel directly within weeks....
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Let us suppose for a moment a Luton-Lviv route is reopened. Why should it work now when the route was dropped by Wizz a few years ago.
LTNman, Northern exit/entry at platform 1 at Parkway almost complete, helpoint live so you should be able to get to new hotel directly within weeks....
There have been complaints on trip adviser about access to the hotel from the station. Why the new access has not opened already is a mystery as the route has looked complete for months.
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Im no expert on the Ukrainian economy, but the route by all means could work. Especially now Wizzair are more established in the Ukrainian market.
As before, they launched the routes to LTN when they first moved into the Ukrainian market and were not so well known.
Also Wizzair flew to Ljubljana a few years back from Luton and Brussels, and was dropped completely due to lack of demand. Here we are now, and the route has restarted and successfully operating 3-4 times a week.
I doubt Wizzair will get any time soon, rights to fly between the UK and Moscow...
The UK/Russian agreement, only allows two airlines from each country fly between them. In this case that is Transaero, Aeroflot, British Airways and easyJet have just taken over the right BMI use to have.
You also have the issue that the UK and Russia require nationals from both countries to have visas to enter their borders. I recently looked into a trip on the new easyJet service from LGW, and a single trip tourist visa is around £100!
Would however love to see the route materialise.
Talking of Wizzair, I noticed the airline recently switched all their operations from Glasgow Prestwick to Glasgow International. This has to act a warning to Luton, they need to keep the airline happy and be sure they are offering them value for money.
All it would take is a killer deal from the likes of the new owners of Stansted or even maybe Southend, and I doubt Wizzair wouldn't hesitate in moving. The airline has demonstrated how cost efficient they are in the past, by moving airports in other countries for a better deal or if not getting the deal they want to make cutbacks to schedules.
People might laugh at me mentioning Southend, but they are eager for business, and Wizzair is one of those airlines that thinks about the price first, while happy to try new facilities and consider the inconvenience to the passenger last. Take the move to Warsaw Modlin airport as an example!
As before, they launched the routes to LTN when they first moved into the Ukrainian market and were not so well known.
Also Wizzair flew to Ljubljana a few years back from Luton and Brussels, and was dropped completely due to lack of demand. Here we are now, and the route has restarted and successfully operating 3-4 times a week.
I doubt Wizzair will get any time soon, rights to fly between the UK and Moscow...
The UK/Russian agreement, only allows two airlines from each country fly between them. In this case that is Transaero, Aeroflot, British Airways and easyJet have just taken over the right BMI use to have.
You also have the issue that the UK and Russia require nationals from both countries to have visas to enter their borders. I recently looked into a trip on the new easyJet service from LGW, and a single trip tourist visa is around £100!
Would however love to see the route materialise.
Talking of Wizzair, I noticed the airline recently switched all their operations from Glasgow Prestwick to Glasgow International. This has to act a warning to Luton, they need to keep the airline happy and be sure they are offering them value for money.
All it would take is a killer deal from the likes of the new owners of Stansted or even maybe Southend, and I doubt Wizzair wouldn't hesitate in moving. The airline has demonstrated how cost efficient they are in the past, by moving airports in other countries for a better deal or if not getting the deal they want to make cutbacks to schedules.
People might laugh at me mentioning Southend, but they are eager for business, and Wizzair is one of those airlines that thinks about the price first, while happy to try new facilities and consider the inconvenience to the passenger last. Take the move to Warsaw Modlin airport as an example!
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Wasn't there a problem for Wizz in Ukraine initially with the authorities being very uncooperative? Didn't that have something to do with the LWO flights being dropped?
Personally I would love the flights to be reinstated. It's a really beautiful city with very friendly people. I loved it!
Personally I would love the flights to be reinstated. It's a really beautiful city with very friendly people. I loved it!
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Adria are not intending to return to Luton this summer. Given their financial difficulties it was always unlikely that they would be back; Wizz moving on to the route was the final nail in the coffin.
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People might laugh at me mentioning Southend, but they are eager for business, and Wizzair is one of those airlines that thinks about the price first, while happy to try new facilities and consider the inconvenience to the passenger last. Take the move to Warsaw Modlin airport as an example!
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I thought this was all sorted.
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I do think that MAG will want them at Stansted, but I think the sheer volume of traffic Wizz have now built up in Luton is going to make them very reluctant to consider moving. Surely there would have to be a heck of a good deal in order to get Wizz out of Luton.
Also, Stansted is fairly full up until around 8 or 9 am, so the early morning period when about half the days flights are would have difficulty and Gatwick is full at virtually any time and Southend is not really viable for reasons LTNman says.
Also, Stansted is fairly full up until around 8 or 9 am, so the early morning period when about half the days flights are would have difficulty and Gatwick is full at virtually any time and Southend is not really viable for reasons LTNman says.
I agree with pabely and FRatSTN that SEN would be totally unsuitable for Wizzair and Wizzair would be equally unsuitable to SEN's plans.
STN though is a very different matter and I'm sure the new owners might try to entice them there, but as has been said their LTN operation is now of such a scale that I very much doubt they would seriously consider moving out. Why move from an ideally located airport to one that is rather less so?
STN though is a very different matter and I'm sure the new owners might try to entice them there, but as has been said their LTN operation is now of such a scale that I very much doubt they would seriously consider moving out. Why move from an ideally located airport to one that is rather less so?
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In the worst case and unlikely scenario Wizzair transferred to Stansted then immediately that leaves it’s passenger catchment area reduced (most Polish/ eastern Europeans live in N.W London areas) and raises opportunities for other eastern European carriers to take on very successful and proven routes from Luton-in effect this would cause a reduction in passenger volume for Wizzair and initially a modest reduction in passenger levels at Luton. but would result in plenty of prime time slots available for the likes of Ryanair and Easyjet to fill. As an example in the worst case scenario that Easyjet pulled out then both Monarch and Thomson would retrieve their former routes! In effect, the routes from Luton are equally as successful and important as any airline operating them!