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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 20:34
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Originally Posted by munrobagger
Edinburgh / Barcelona to be axed due to poor loadings - now that's a surprise .
Jet 2 must be favourites as there are " discussions with other airlines "
Last winter's EDI-BCN loads really weren't all that bad, generally in the 80 per cents. Suspect this is just the usual Ryanair politics.

Jet2 could be possible providers of a year-round EDI-BCN service, as indeed could easyJet, but as Jack1985 says, an extended Vueling schedule could be possible too. It's capacity which I'm sure EDI will recover.
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Old 14th Oct 2013, 16:26
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Spain to cut airport costs from Jan 14 to increase traffic, reduced rates will apply to new routes or any increase in flights from all carriers. Madrid and Barcelona will see the doubling of charges reversed.
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 17:23
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Spain to cut airport costs from Jan 14 to increase traffic, reduced rates will apply to new routes or any increase in flights from all carriers. Madrid and Barcelona will see the doubling of charges reversed.
Wonder if that is the reason for the EDI-BCN cut so that they can take advantage of the reduced rates with a reintroduction.

Just a thought.

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Old 15th Oct 2013, 17:49
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Ryanair have called a press conference tomorrow in Dublin, suggestions that a deal may of being done to scrap the 3 Travel Tax.
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 17:55
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Ryanair have called a press conference tomorrow in Dublin, suggestions that a deal may of being done to scrap the 3 Travel Tax.
The Government announced that the travel tax was to be withdrawn today, Aer Lingus, Aer Arann and Ryanair have already given statements to that effect.

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Old 15th Oct 2013, 17:56
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Wow you mean 2 Govts deciding that maybe introducing a travel tax (after being told how stupid it is) have finally realised how stupid it is.

Next Govts will be asking does a animal with fur go to toilet in the woods.......
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 17:56
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The Government announced that the travel tax was to be withdrawn today, Aer Lingus, Aer Arann and Ryanair have already given statements to that effect.
They have but FR have also called a press conference for tomorrow and I don't think it will be about a little statement.

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Old 15th Oct 2013, 17:58
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Wow you mean 2 Govts deciding that maybe introducing a travel tax (after being told how stupid it is) have finally realised how stupid it is.

Next Govts will be asking does a animal with fur go to toilet in the woods.......
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You never know the UK may realise it in time or do you feel it was a good move from the UK Gov?

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Old 15th Oct 2013, 18:06
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They have but FR have also called a press conference for tomorrow and I don't think it will be about a little statement.
Yes, but my point was that this wasn't "A deal may have been done", Ryanair didn't know about this prior to today, it wasn't them making a deal with the Government, if they had they would have had a conference scheduled already before the budget and you can bet MOL would have been screaming from the roof tops about how Ryanair had freed the people of Ireland from "An unfair and uneconomic tax", although no doubt he'll try and claim he did in tomorrow conference.

I wouldn't expect a new route, although it could help some routes that were struggling, or perhaps extend some Seasonal routes a little longer.
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 18:10
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Yes, but my point was that this wasn't "A deal may have been done", Ryanair didn't know about this prior to today, it wasn't them making a deal with the Government, if they had they would have had a conference scheduled already before the budget and you can bet MOL would have been screaming from the roof tops about how Ryanair had freed the people of Ireland from "An unfair and uneconomic tax", although no doubt he'll try and claim he did in tomorrow conference.

I wouldn't expect a new route, although it could help some routes that were struggling, or perhaps extend some Seasonal routes a little longer.
Not saying a deal was done but just saying it has being suggested,
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 11:22
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Any word from the presser in Dublin?
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 13:15
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Not sure if DUB will benefit but SNN might see increase in base.
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 14:09
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I million extra passengers from Ireland from April at DUB, ORK, SNN, KIR and NOC combined. Not a lot of detail but will talk to airports over next 2 days to see where new routes are needed and increased freq.

Edit - here's the Press Release
Ryanair Will Grow Traffic At Irish Airports By Over 1m Passengers?

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Old 16th Oct 2013, 16:15
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So all Irish airports and Stansted getting more Ryanair traffic next year. We certainly haven't seen that for a while!

Strange that we haven't really yet heard anything about expansion plans in Spain, especially for Barcelona and Madrid, following AENA's move to lower charges. Ryanair do not get any new aircraft until September 2014. Could it be maybe that they don't have enough aircraft to commit to Spain as well?

If Stansted, and then airports in Ireland and Spain see substantial growth next year and with no new aircraft coming in, there really is going to have to be quite a bit of cutting back from other markets.
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 20:54
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Ryanair asking pax for comments on how to make FR a better airline(flood gates open)
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 21:10
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Ryanair do not get any new aircraft until September 2014
and the current fleet reduces before then, capacity will be tight next summer.
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 22:01
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and the current fleet reduces before then, capacity will be tight next summer.
Hold existing fleet to end of Summer and get Boeing to bring forward some deliveries.............

Additionally there are least 738's stored by Lease co's ...........

As FR / Boeing have sourced end users for the 738's that the new aircraft will replace then also posssible a deal will become available.

Everything is possible.
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 11:39
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Assuming of course all these extra passengers are suddenly going to appear overnight. Most of Europe is still under a dark economic cloud with money still very tight for most people, so I would just hold your horses so to speak unless, of course, someone waves a magic wand!
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 12:42
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Ireland

I perceive these expansion promises mostly as a kind of MOL's political manifesto ("reducing taxes is good for tourism, air travel, economy etc"). In general terms his attitude towards taxation is correct. Lower taxes are good for economy, albeit in that context the expansion will not necessary be good for his airline; the Irish "economic niche" is limited by size (of the country and its population) and the 4 difference in taxation will not necessary have as obvious "boost potential" as Ryanair would like to prove.
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 13:54
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Pee, correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the tax was 3 to UK and 10 to any other destination.

Ireland isn't unique in having an air travel tax and I'm sure many outsiders in a similar situation will look on with interest at the benefits of its removal.

It is obvious the Exchequer's tax take on promised growth in overseas tourism numbers and earnings will more than offset the loss especially when coupled with the retained reduced VAT reduction for the tourism and hospitality sector.

Ryanair is one of the airlines that will avail of the opportunity created.
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