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Old 5th Dec 2013, 11:43
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T3 cannot handle an extra A330 and B757 Trans Atlantic flight in the morning peak.
Is it even physically possible to gate a A330, 767 and 2 757 on T3 at the same time?
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 11:50
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Didn`t it used to when bmi had A330s plus BA B767 and BA B757s

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Old 5th Dec 2013, 12:03
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I'm sure both US and AA will want to be together and that's the reason behind moving so moving AA out I expect defeats the purpose of US moving.
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 12:04
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I believe the provisional plan is for the US PHL A330 to use St44, AA ORD 767 to use st55, AA JFK 757 to use st54 and the US CLT 757 to use st49. However, with 44 in use, this precludes the simultaneous use 44L and 44R currently used by Flybe. Either way, something has to give.
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 12:12
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Lot of choice going East via the legacies and the MEB3 which makes it a tough ask.
Those are identified boardings and only a part of a gamut of matrices employed in route development as a starting point.

If you only looked at this number ignored contained and future potential other industrial and leisure indicators, socio economic trends (that may indicate yield potential) political leverage and just little entrepreneurial risk taking no new route would ever commence anywhere !

An interesting static worth considering is that Hainan has announced PEK-BOS on a 2012 boarding figure of just 127,418 for ALL of China from Logan.

Air China are operating to Geneva on boardings of 85,000 for ALL of China in 2011 !

Presee a useful matrix but only a jigsaw corner piece
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 13:04
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Air China

...and with Gatwick showing only a measly 3.8% of the China market, makes it look even odder that Air China have announced the resumption of LGW-PEK from next March. This has been suspended since last October.
On the face of it, you would have thought Manchester with 3 times the market might have got the service for which Air China already hold the rights for.

Air China to resume flights from Gatwick
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 18:18
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I have just been checking the current timetable position.

As was reported previously the Monday and Wednesday DME had been dropped.

The replacements are ATH on Monday and SKG on Wednesday. Also on Wednesday the afternoon MLA has now moved to the morning and some other timings altered.

The previous timetable did not show a Thursday MLA like this year. This has now been reinstated. These latest changes make full use of the 8 based aircraft
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 21:39
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Lufthansa must be having some good loads of late.

The past 2 days, most FRA/MUC flights have been on the A321.
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 09:12
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Ill try and see if I can find a public link but according to an email I recieved today, Air China have re-applied for 4 weekly MAN-PEK flights with the rights for onward flights to another EU destination (unspecified in the email). The slots are for winter 2014.

I say re-applied as they previously held the rights for 7 weekly MAN-PEK flights.

Obviously could mean nothing as slots are requested and unused all the time, but its progress!
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 09:16
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onward to DUB maybe ?
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 09:37
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onward to DUB maybe ?
Genuinely doesn't say. I know DUB and ZRH are mooted to get Air China flights so could be either of them at a guess. Also the paragraph was quite vague, it didn't say if the EU tag would start at the same time or if it was applying for the rights as a 'future proofing exercise', if you catch my drift.
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 10:13
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Obviously could mean nothing as slots are requested and unused all the time, but its progress!
Slots are indeed requested all the time and most are not taken up. However what most people will take away from what you just said is Air China are launching PEK-MAN-DUB !

Slot requests are part and parcel of keeping options open for route planning until someone higher up decides where to place the asset (aircraft).

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Old 6th Dec 2013, 10:22
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However what most people will take away from what you just said is Air China are launching PEK-MAN-DUB
Actually PEK-MAN-DUB-ZRH, but, in all seriousness, whilst Air China have previously held rights to MAN-PEK, they have never formally applied for slots at either end, so, lets hope they are a 'only apply to follow through' airline.

In other news, Cathay's slots for the B747-800 have now been cleared in Frankfurt, so as well as Spanner's tip off, looking likely MAN will finally see the -800.
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 16:27
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Jolly Green Giant arrives from Emerald Isle?

A story is circulating that Cathay's first -8F will arrive into MAN from SNN on the 19th. Strange routing.
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 18:41
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November pax up 1.02%

Manchester Airport : Traffic Statistics

Click on the above link then on November to open the PDF

Schedule International pax up 9.5% or 84000 but what a whopping percentage figure for the IT decrease - 28%. I suppose we will have to wait and see how other airports fared although only Gatwick is really in Manchester's league.

Rolling year 20,775,049

Freight up as well.

I apologise if these have been posted as they have been out a few days.

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Old 6th Dec 2013, 20:45
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1.02% increase ?

A Manchester Airport spokesman said: “The official numbers confirm the upward trend in passenger numbers we’ve witnessed here at Manchester over the last year. It’s come from across the airline network with growth from blah blah blah.......
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 21:29
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So you're suggesting a 1% increase is not in fact an increase ?
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Old 7th Dec 2013, 00:46
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Cool

There were going to be 2 -8's that day 1 to SNN and 1 to MAN. I can't remember which 1 was going where after that, but the 2 flts have been amalgamated and there is now 1 flt going SYD-HKG-DXB-SNN-MAN-FRA-AMS-DXB-HKG
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Old 7th Dec 2013, 04:56
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SYD-HKG-DXB-SNN-MAN-FRA-AMS-DXB-HKG
Good old fashioned milk run there. Any reason for the SNN visit, not normally a CX cargo destination?
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Old 7th Dec 2013, 10:59
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Cool

Horses I believe.
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