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Old 14th Aug 2017, 19:13
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Buster, try reading the accounts. (Freely available on many websites) and you will see that all of the costs associated with getting rid of the Airbus were put into the last set of accounts.
This is much more interesting,

British Steel rescuer Greybull eyes swoop on ailing Alitalia

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Old 14th Aug 2017, 20:57
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Where do you get the notion that Monarch will not be disposing of any of the Airbus's any time soon from?
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 23:36
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Old 15th Aug 2017, 00:40
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Glasgow seems a no brainer of a base for them to be honest!
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Old 15th Aug 2017, 01:24
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Originally Posted by tubby linton
Buster, try reading the accounts. (Freely available on many websites) and you will see that all of the costs associated with getting rid of the Airbus were put into the last set of accounts.
This is much more interesting,

British Steel rescuer Greybull eyes swoop on ailing Alitalia
That is interesting ....
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Old 15th Aug 2017, 07:24
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My post 4005 was in reply to post 3999 "I suspect the accounting adjustment for the Airbuses wouldn't have been needed if they weren't getting rid of them before the end of the contracts."
My answer in post 4005 was they were not returning any early.
They are being returned as and when the leases are due to finish.
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Old 15th Aug 2017, 09:08
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That's fine but your still looking at an airline that doesn't make any money.

Looking at fares readily available for all operators it seems there is more supply than demand. I was just pointing out that Monarch need to be having a good summer. You can only Pi55 into the wind for so long before you end up getting wet.
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Old 15th Aug 2017, 14:57
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Originally Posted by Jerry123
Could they setup a new base? Glasgow Newcastle Southampton Cardiff and Bristol could potential options for them.
Given the previous profiling of MON customers, BOH would seem favourite...
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Old 15th Aug 2017, 20:37
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Registrations for the MAX fleet will be G-MXCA through Z and G-MXDA through V.
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Old 16th Aug 2017, 10:23
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wont be as much fun as the last 'Charlie Alpha' to grace the MON fleet.
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Old 16th Aug 2017, 15:24
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http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articl...raft-write-off
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Old 16th Aug 2017, 15:57
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A tie up with Boeing for the engineering side cannot be a bad thing i would have thought
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Old 18th Aug 2017, 17:30
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Not sure how anyone can think Greybull has the capital to purchase the Boeing 737 max aircraft.
I questioned on this forum 18 months ago the policy of Monarch getting rid of fairly new aircraft and replacing with older aircraft.
many memebers threw my comments back in my face.
These accounts (filed late) show a reduction in aircraft asset worth of 80m due to the new mix, the figures dont lie.
The Onerous Contract provision of 198.1M relates to lease costs being higher then revenue over the lease periods and the Impairment of Aircraft costs of 102.762M relating to cost to be outlayed to ensure leased aircaft can be returned without a liability.
management can see no change in leased position until 2022 and hope that building up the holiday side will bear fruit.
Cosmo holidays now renamed Monarch Holidays has seen a reduction of 25% in sales, not going in the right direction for this plan to work.
The 150M Greybull put in last October has now been accounted for, where is the 1B needed for the new aircraft.
Fortunatley as seat only sales no longer ATOL covered, the renewal of the ATOL insurance at the end of September should not be as difficult as last year, but we have no knowledge of the last 10 months trading other the companys comment that they saw profits down 35% on 2016 levels. Greybull are likley to have to find funds even for the shrinking ATOL cover as its unlikly to be covered by this years profits.
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Old 18th Aug 2017, 18:06
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From looking in it seems like Greybull have access to lots of credit. Surely the 165million investment just under 11 months ago was part of a long term strategy. The tie up with Boeing also suggests that one of the worlds biggest manufacturers also have faith in the plan. If I was running a business and was having a less favourable trading position than expected I would use the opportunity to sink some losses at once rather eek out costs year on year and consequently reap the future benefits. But I'm no accountant or CEO so have no idea.
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Old 18th Aug 2017, 20:35
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I suspect the real owner of the new aircraft will be Boeing . The deposit made on the cancelled 787's being part payment
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Old 18th Aug 2017, 22:26
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I believe it was announced that Boeing are going to fund a sale and lease back.
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Old 19th Aug 2017, 00:28
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For those who have a concern over the fleet write down in the accounts, Etihad have just done a similar thing in their accounts.
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Old 19th Aug 2017, 20:37
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Monarch are getting brand new aircraft from Boeing next year, so the post by Leeds spotter is nonsense.
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Old 28th Aug 2017, 22:12
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I hear MON are to lease 3 Air tanker A330,s next year for long haul destinations to plug the gap before the new 787,s arrive
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Old 29th Aug 2017, 01:09
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Please be true!

I've been banking 120,000+ vantage points hoping for some long haul action
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