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Well, I just wanted to have a proper timetable that tells me departures times and operating days of those routes that are potentially useful to make a connection to the continent (MAN, LGW, NCL, EDI, GLA, LPL, SEN etc.) - rather than having to go through the booking engines of Flybe, easyjet etc. to find out. Apparently a timetable exists on NQY's webstie in theory, but the link is dead. Two emails to the airport were, too put it mildly, inconclusive, so I wasted an hour or so to play around with booking engines.
One would think that airports are smart enough to provide the most basic information - which airline flies from the airport on what days at which times to what destination. Alas, they are not.
One would think that airports are smart enough to provide the most basic information - which airline flies from the airport on what days at which times to what destination. Alas, they are not.
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Seems something is broken on the website !
the Winter 12/13 is still available via the web:
http://www.newquaycornwallairport.co...02012-2013.pdf
however summer 13 link is broken.
But....................
This page does list which routes are available seasonally and which are year round:
Flights From Newquay | Newquay Cornwall Airport
and by clicking each destination you can see basic information for each route
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the Winter 12/13 is still available via the web:
http://www.newquaycornwallairport.co...02012-2013.pdf
however summer 13 link is broken.
But....................
This page does list which routes are available seasonally and which are year round:
Flights From Newquay | Newquay Cornwall Airport
and by clicking each destination you can see basic information for each route
cs
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The Web host is trying to resolve the failed linked but there is this
http://www.newquaycornwallairport.co...Summer2013.pdf
http://www.newquaycornwallairport.co...Summer2013.pdf
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I'd be surprised if anyone could sustain even a once-daily service with a A319/B737 aircraft size.
It's a thin route whose sole selling-point is frequency, which is allows for greater productivity than the equivalent train journey. Without an early morning and late evening option, what's the point?
NQY's only hope is that Flybe moves the route to another London airport.
Failing that...in an ideal world, BACF would make a go of LCY-NQY on the E190. When WOW tried the route there was silly over-capacity on the London market and low yields because it was in a head-on battle with Flybe at LGW at the time. Without competition, LCY might work.
Looking grim
It's a thin route whose sole selling-point is frequency, which is allows for greater productivity than the equivalent train journey. Without an early morning and late evening option, what's the point?
NQY's only hope is that Flybe moves the route to another London airport.
Failing that...in an ideal world, BACF would make a go of LCY-NQY on the E190. When WOW tried the route there was silly over-capacity on the London market and low yields because it was in a head-on battle with Flybe at LGW at the time. Without competition, LCY might work.
Looking grim
Might not be good news in terms of a LGW link, but why would BE (all other things being equal) not continue to fly to NQY from MAN (and the other places they serve seasonally), for example?
I could see EZY's new SEN-NQY route going year-round, and maybe more presence from them at NQY next year.....sun-routes have been hinted at in their press releases and these are more likely if flown as part of a W from SEN or another EZY base.
Twice a day to NQY (on a bigger a/c) as per the previous RYR STN service would not be so bad would it?
I could see EZY's new SEN-NQY route going year-round, and maybe more presence from them at NQY next year.....sun-routes have been hinted at in their press releases and these are more likely if flown as part of a W from SEN or another EZY base.
Twice a day to NQY (on a bigger a/c) as per the previous RYR STN service would not be so bad would it?
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There you go ... another route that can't be operated from/to LGW for Shoreham City Airways to have a go at! 
All it takes is for an operator, aircraft type appropriate to the route such as ATR42, Jetsteam, Do328, SF340/S2000 or whatever, to step in and they could really make a successful route out of it if the product and the price is right.
All it takes is for an operator, aircraft type appropriate to the route such as ATR42, Jetsteam, Do328, SF340/S2000 or whatever, to step in and they could really make a successful route out of it if the product and the price is right.
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Well, given that smaller aircraft are getting priced out of LGW to release capacity for more lucrative large jets, I have some doubts if you are correct. LGW would welcome a new airline with open arms that suggests to operate a 50seater on UK domestic flights - not. Plus how should a new entrant get hold of decent slots at LGW which is a seriously slot-constrained airport?
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I suspect most of the SEN-NQY traffic will be people in london travelling to Cornwall for leisure, maybe a smaller amount travelling the other way for business in London.
I wonder how much of the traffic on the Flybe service to LGW is travelling onwards on longer haul routes?
I wonder how much of the traffic on the Flybe service to LGW is travelling onwards on longer haul routes?
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To hell with one or another LoCo offering a "Stupid O'Clock" once a day service to/from NQY, might I take one's back to these days ay NQY:
The fuel bowsers became known as "Sweaty Betty" and "Fat Ann", if the diesel in the fuel tank was frozen in one of them of a morning then they'd light a bonfire beneath the bowser full of fuel, every body knew everbody it seems and there remains most definitely a market for up to a 3 times daily service to and from the London area, failing that then morning and evening to London and middle of the day to Manchester.
The fuel bowsers became known as "Sweaty Betty" and "Fat Ann", if the diesel in the fuel tank was frozen in one of them of a morning then they'd light a bonfire beneath the bowser full of fuel, every body knew everbody it seems and there remains most definitely a market for up to a 3 times daily service to and from the London area, failing that then morning and evening to London and middle of the day to Manchester.
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Would have thought that if Flybe pull out of Gatwick then easyjet would pick up the route, if not I may just have to come out of retirement and see what can be done....?
People in Cornwall go on holiday too, it is not just business traffic, used Flybe just a week ago to return from the Gatwick after a holiday in the Grenadines.
People in Cornwall go on holiday too, it is not just business traffic, used Flybe just a week ago to return from the Gatwick after a holiday in the Grenadines.
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Would have thought that if Flybe pull out of Gatwick then easyjet would pick
up the route, if not I may just have to come out of retirement and see what can
be done....?
People in Cornwall go on holiday too, it is not just
business traffic, used Flybe just a week ago to return from the Gatwick after a
holiday in the Grenadines.
Totally agree with you, which Is why I have long held the view that an airline with onward connections to longhaul would work well for NQY/Cornwall. That's why I keep suggesting LHR-NQY and BA.
I know that's a pipe dream of mine alone, but knowing how difficult/time consuming it is to get from LHR-Cornwall im fairly certain that the route would attract a decent level of passenger support, however I fear yields would be a big problem.
It would be very upsetting to see BE leave the LON-NQY route after seeing off SZ, who did very well on the LGW route 4 daily.
But to be honest, as you say a market certainly does exist for NQY-LON as has been proven in the past when BA & SZ operated on the LGW route and FR operated STN-NQY double daily.
I cant see a time when the route wont be served, but hey ho, what do I know, im just an armchair observer
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What comes around goes around for flybe?? They purposely started the route to off WOW, and they achieved that. Now they themselves are struggling. NQY and PLH always worked together on the the LGW route.
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smallpilotThere will be no business traffic worth speaking about on SEN-NQY as it currently stands. The "service" is a couple of days a week at useless times of the day, for a very limited number of weeks. It's barely worth even discussing.
It's the frequency of the service to London that matters.
Even if Flybe keeps some of its slots, it's going to have to concentrate on the routes that make the most cash. So in any scenario, it's looking grim for NQY unless Flybe switches London airports.
It's the frequency of the service to London that matters.
Even if Flybe keeps some of its slots, it's going to have to concentrate on the routes that make the most cash. So in any scenario, it's looking grim for NQY unless Flybe switches London airports.
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Like cornishsimon I would love to see a NQY/LHR flight but fear it would never happen. I fly to YVR two or three times a year and would look first at NQY/MAN if there were no London flights.
To be honest though it is almost as easy to rent a car and leave it at LHR/LGW than take a flight.
Surely Skybus must hold a key somewhere here?
To be honest though it is almost as easy to rent a car and leave it at LHR/LGW than take a flight.
Surely Skybus must hold a key somewhere here?
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NQY and PLH always worked together on the the LGW route.
NQY, after BN2 days, to LHR, not LGW, was operated by BMA and then Brymon utilising HPR7 aircraft ... now if PLH ever had a long enough runway during the 1980's to accept a loaded HPR7 then you just say the word WOWBOY!
The HPR7 was supposed to be replaced by a DHC7 however a tightening of purse strings resulted in no replacement being available for the HPR7, which had been sold to finance the PLH (1) and ABZ (2) DHC7's that were already in situ, the PLH DHC7 already operating a PLH/LHR/PLH route, thus the NQY route became, supposedly temporarily, piggy backed on to the PLH/LHR/PLH route.
Meanwhile the LGW route was operated by a DHC6 aircraft, it had nothing to do with NQY, operating PLH/LGW/PLH which then became combined with an EXT/LGW/EXT route once Air UK pulled their Bandit from the EXT route.
Years later BA poached the LHR slots so the PLH/NQY route, which remained combined because the order of a 4th DHC7 became cancelled due lack of finance, moved to LGW but this was many years after the original HPR7 (50 seater) NQY/LHR/NQY route and the subsequently combined route with PLH to/from LHR.
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Another Phileas history lesson, quite right of course. I was station manager for Westward Airways way back in those BN2 days and if my memory serves me rightly most of the traffic was Newquay or Scillies bound and not Plymouth even back then when road journeys were much longer in terms of time.
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Greetings from the tropics GROUNDHOG
Just been reading that some are putting faith in a new SEN/NQY/SEN service expecting to fill up to 156 seats in each direction.
Well, back in the day, when much, if not all, of the London airports were clagged out we would divert a LHR bound NQY/PLH DHC7 in to SEN to move punters by road between the two, by the time any punters from LHR arrived to SEN by coach they could have already been the best part of the way to Devon/Cornwall by coach already.
Think about it, any punters from the South East corner, the Home Counties, indeed from the midlands and further north (since the construction of the A14 linked the M1/M6 with the M11 and STN, by the time they've headed a further hour east to a peninsula somewhere in Essex, well they could already be the best part of the way to Devon/Cornwall.
Nothing against SEN, it has it's potential, namely eastbound and across water, "London to Cornwall" it is not!
Just been reading that some are putting faith in a new SEN/NQY/SEN service expecting to fill up to 156 seats in each direction.
Well, back in the day, when much, if not all, of the London airports were clagged out we would divert a LHR bound NQY/PLH DHC7 in to SEN to move punters by road between the two, by the time any punters from LHR arrived to SEN by coach they could have already been the best part of the way to Devon/Cornwall by coach already.
Think about it, any punters from the South East corner, the Home Counties, indeed from the midlands and further north (since the construction of the A14 linked the M1/M6 with the M11 and STN, by the time they've headed a further hour east to a peninsula somewhere in Essex, well they could already be the best part of the way to Devon/Cornwall.
Nothing against SEN, it has it's potential, namely eastbound and across water, "London to Cornwall" it is not!