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How likely is it that next year we could see a Dublin-Inverness route ? maybe 6 flights a week ?
And what about Dublin to Newquay or Dundee ?
And Cork to Cardiff ?
And what about Dublin to Newquay or Dundee ?
And Cork to Cardiff ?
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I think we will see EI Regional at NQY fairly soon. The NQY-DUB & ORK routes were well established prior to the close down of Air Southwest.
in fact looking at the caa stats during 2010 SZ carried 10,800 on the DUB route and 4600 on the ORK, with 2011 having over 7000 to DUB and 3000 to ORK prior to the close down of SZ.
EI regional could pick up a decent passenger load at NQY by offering onward connections, considering how badly connected NQY currently is, would there be any difference connecting at DUB compared to LGW or getting the train to LHR ?
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in fact looking at the caa stats during 2010 SZ carried 10,800 on the DUB route and 4600 on the ORK, with 2011 having over 7000 to DUB and 3000 to ORK prior to the close down of SZ.
EI regional could pick up a decent passenger load at NQY by offering onward connections, considering how badly connected NQY currently is, would there be any difference connecting at DUB compared to LGW or getting the train to LHR ?
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One problem with ORK-PLH would be that PLH is closed !!!!!
As for SEN-NQY, if you look at the caa yearly domestic stats for years gone by it will
Show demand for LON-NQY, which previously sustained a twice daily 738 STN-NQY along with the current LGW services, EIr could operate DUB-NQY-SEN-NQY-DUB
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As for SEN-NQY, if you look at the caa yearly domestic stats for years gone by it will
Show demand for LON-NQY, which previously sustained a twice daily 738 STN-NQY along with the current LGW services, EIr could operate DUB-NQY-SEN-NQY-DUB
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Mlinnie, I don't think we will see Dublin Inverness anytime soon. AerArann did it before during boom time in Ireland and it got axed. Though FR were on ABZ daily. I think EIR will leave capacity to that area of Scotland to a daily flight and enjoy good yield rather than dilute the fare levels with extra capacity. I think Dundee would be good little bolt on to EDI.
NQY would work well as seasonal route say x3 weekly.imho.
I think EIR's next steps will be looking at strong population areas of UK that could feed US flights ex, DUB. Eg NCL, EMA LPL. Bristol has been a good test, FR cut flights to 2daily as did EIR, which shows EIR can carve a niche for itself in competitive markets, while benefiting from EI brand.
NQY would work well as seasonal route say x3 weekly.imho.
I think EIR's next steps will be looking at strong population areas of UK that could feed US flights ex, DUB. Eg NCL, EMA LPL. Bristol has been a good test, FR cut flights to 2daily as did EIR, which shows EIR can carve a niche for itself in competitive markets, while benefiting from EI brand.
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Sorry EI-EIDW. You r correct. I read a leaflet tonight at BRS and it said Frequency on BRS DUB is x2 daily but checking FR website and I see x3. I think EIR is doing ok on d route. Though Brussels Airlines marketing US via BRU....which is what EIR are after via DUB.
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FR would love to drop DUB-BRS to 2 daily and that was the plan but then EI announced 3 daily service and FR readded the third daily service and its only staying because EI are operating it.
I flew with EI last November and both flights were 85%+ full with a few connecting passengers from US on the early morning outbound flight.
I flew with EI last November and both flights were 85%+ full with a few connecting passengers from US on the early morning outbound flight.
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I'm actually surprised that EIr hasn't already been enticed to NQY, I'm 99% certain that Cornwall CC who own NQY are trying to offer up deals to re-establish routes left vacant by the demise of SZ.
Dublin and Cork were always popular routes and I would imagine would be more so if marketed correctly.
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Dublin and Cork were always popular routes and I would imagine would be more so if marketed correctly.
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FR would love to drop DUB-BRS to 2 daily and that was the plan but then EI announced 3 daily service and FR readded the third daily service and its only staying because EI are operating it.
When EI announced a 3 x daily BRS-DUB for summer 2011, FR returned to 3 x daily (as Jamie pointed out).
Last winter EI reduced to 2 x daily and carried that over into the current summer.
Ryanair remained at 3 x daily for this summer but in May (there may have been other months as well) the afternoon rotation was non-operational on certain days of the week.
DUB was BRS's most popular route in 2011 with 323,000 passengers.
Are you saying, Jamie, that FR is staying at 3 x daily (nominally at least) simply because EI is on the route with them? If that is the case the assumption must be that FR is either losing money on a 3rd rotation or at least not making the money it wants. It could be seen as Ryanair putting itself in thrall to EI.
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Are you saying, Jamie, that FR is staying at 3 x daily (nominally at least) simply because EI is on the route with them? If that is the case the assumption must be that FR is either losing money on a 3rd rotation or at least not making the money it wants. It could be seen as Ryanair putting itself in thrall to EI.
FR are selling seats for the equivalent 25c from Warsaw and Budapest on some routes they compete with Wizz Air on and this is to guarantee that they will be 50% cheaper and they said this had lead to high load factors with very low yield and they say they will keep it up until Wizz drop or reduce. They won't be able to long term.
EI can handle FR very well compared to other carriers. EI regional improves this even more especially comparing the cost of flying a jet verses a ATR.
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CBK in more trouble...
Yet another incident involving CBK (Continuously Broken & Knackered) yesterday with engine trouble on departure out of KIR.
Perhaps more alarming is the claim that there were only 14 PAX onboard!
Link: Incident: Aer Arann AT42 at Kerry on Aug 2nd 2012, engine problem
Perhaps more alarming is the claim that there were only 14 PAX onboard!
Link: Incident: Aer Arann AT42 at Kerry on Aug 2nd 2012, engine problem
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FR will keep pressure on compitation even if they have to take huge losses as a result. DUB-BRS will most lightly remain at 3 daily for the majority of the time until EI pull off the route or reduce it further. Remenber FR reduced BRS becasoe of charges as Dublin but now even higher charges don't seem to be a problem for the route....
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Aer Lingus have been operating BRS since 1936..... they wont back down on this route. Others they would but not BRS.
I fly on the BRS quite often. It isn't a busy route but i've flown on FR with 35 pax on a 737 to BRS.
I fly on the BRS quite often. It isn't a busy route but i've flown on FR with 35 pax on a 737 to BRS.
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Originally Posted by Airbus321-200
Aer Lingus have been operating BRS since 1936..... they wont back down on this route. Others they would but not BRS.
The only reason they're even on this route now is because its operated by Aer Arann using ATRs. If Aer Lingus were to fly double daily using A320s they wouldn't stand a chance against Ryanair.