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LTNman, if you work in the industry you'll understand that public transport accounts for 5-10 % pax MAXIMUM of a well connected regional airport.... So hardly the reason for an airport to fail if they don't provide it.
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Well I would really love BOH to succeed after visiting the airport many times over the years but it isn't happening. Is it really all down to MAG management who seem very successful at running other UK airports or is there other factors which are out of their control why BOH is having a hard time?
I don't know if that little airport with the short runway on a pocket of land to the east of BOH achieved its targets from its 2006 master plan but its target was 18.5% of passengers using public transport but your point about as little as 5% of passengers using regional airports use public transport might well be valid. In BOH case that figure is probably less than 1% but as you say it might well have no effect so lets all blame the management.
I don't know if that little airport with the short runway on a pocket of land to the east of BOH achieved its targets from its 2006 master plan but its target was 18.5% of passengers using public transport but your point about as little as 5% of passengers using regional airports use public transport might well be valid. In BOH case that figure is probably less than 1% but as you say it might well have no effect so lets all blame the management.
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LTNman, I do agree on the point about MAG management. I don't think EMA is doing particularly well out of them either and I suspect STN in time may fall behind others.
BOH needs independence if it is to incentivise the right airlines and by right airlines I mean Ryanair and easyJet!
BOH needs independence if it is to incentivise the right airlines and by right airlines I mean Ryanair and easyJet!
LTNman, if you work in the industry you'll understand that public transport accounts for 5-10 % pax MAXIMUM of a well connected regional airport.... So hardly the reason for an airport to fail if they don't provide it.
5% may be nearer the mark for BOH where public transport is poor.
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Anyone at home??
Yesterday at 1345, on the Apron at BOH, not one a/c on the East or West Aprons.Not one vehicle moving and no humans visible Airside. Waiting for the Summer.......
P.s. The Man.Dir. Retires next year!
P.s. The Man.Dir. Retires next year!
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It may not be doing wonderfully, but there's a long list of airports that are doing no better, or worse; Blackpool, Cambridge, Coventry, Dundee, Manston, Oxford, Plymouth, Prestwick, Sheffield, Swansea, Teeside... and probably others?
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Half the above mentioned airports are closed (e.g. Manston, Plymouth etc) and some don't have any commercial flights so are not really comparable to BOH.
If they were doing no worse than BOH, surely they would be doing just as well or better in fact? For the type of operation I would say that BOH is most comparable to SEN and DSA e.g. Mainly leisure flights...
If they were doing no worse than BOH, surely they would be doing just as well or better in fact? For the type of operation I would say that BOH is most comparable to SEN and DSA e.g. Mainly leisure flights...
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I have been looking at some reviews of the airport and I have to say they are bad. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bo...25a1ae9ec810,1,,
Most of the complaints seem to be about drop off charges but more and more airports now charge as it is a valuable source of income when airlines demand big discounts. Stansted now also charge a £3 drop off fee for up to 10 minutes and £50 for 11 minutes or more.
No doubt the same people who complain about charges will be complaining if the airport ever closed its terminal and just became a GA and maintenance base as there are big savings to be made with a cut in staff numbers and fire cover.
So is the answer is for BOH to charge the airlines more to cover the drop off fees and make the drop off free and if the airlines say no then to let them go or should BOH be registered as a charity?
Most of the complaints seem to be about drop off charges but more and more airports now charge as it is a valuable source of income when airlines demand big discounts. Stansted now also charge a £3 drop off fee for up to 10 minutes and £50 for 11 minutes or more.
No doubt the same people who complain about charges will be complaining if the airport ever closed its terminal and just became a GA and maintenance base as there are big savings to be made with a cut in staff numbers and fire cover.
So is the answer is for BOH to charge the airlines more to cover the drop off fees and make the drop off free and if the airlines say no then to let them go or should BOH be registered as a charity?
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To be honest with you the drop off fee and how bad the airport is doing is usually brought up annually , usually about this time of year
Can we try and move on from this, its really tedious …….
Can we try and move on from this, its really tedious …….
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Easy Jet are returning next winter 2016 / 17 the 12th year of operating winter flights to Geneva
The schedule is the same as this year , 6 flights a week and more flights operated by the A 320
P & O cruises have added another 3 flights to Barbados for the 2017 / 18 season with 5 services this coming winter 16 / 17
Ryanair have still to announce there ALC / AGP flights for the winter but with MLA and LPA continuing throughout the winter for the first time , there is hopefully a chance that they may increase these flights or at least keep the same schedule as this year
Faro would be good to see as a continued winter route , hopefully this next week they will announce the full winter schedule
The schedule is the same as this year , 6 flights a week and more flights operated by the A 320
P & O cruises have added another 3 flights to Barbados for the 2017 / 18 season with 5 services this coming winter 16 / 17
Ryanair have still to announce there ALC / AGP flights for the winter but with MLA and LPA continuing throughout the winter for the first time , there is hopefully a chance that they may increase these flights or at least keep the same schedule as this year
Faro would be good to see as a continued winter route , hopefully this next week they will announce the full winter schedule
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I feel the ex BOH originators are the way forward as proved by the ALC/AGP/GVE flights.
With promotional investment by Town Halls and Tourist Authorities from the New Forest and Christchurch in the East, Bournemouth and as far afield as Dorchester in the west and Salisbury in the north attracting tourism to the UK and major venues both city and sun in Europe of interest to the our region one or two flights a week should prove to be viable both summer and winter.
We also have large overseas communities in the region such as the Polish would make a Krakow a possibility.
With promotional investment by Town Halls and Tourist Authorities from the New Forest and Christchurch in the East, Bournemouth and as far afield as Dorchester in the west and Salisbury in the north attracting tourism to the UK and major venues both city and sun in Europe of interest to the our region one or two flights a week should prove to be viable both summer and winter.
We also have large overseas communities in the region such as the Polish would make a Krakow a possibility.
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Wroclaw, Krakow, Katowice and Gdansk were operated in 2007 and 2008 by Ryanair, easyJet and Wizzair. For lack of demand - they discontinued. Doubt they will try again.
Perhaps Warsaw would be a potential with better demand?
Surprised that Flybe are not testing these markets from SOU though.
Perhaps Warsaw would be a potential with better demand?
Surprised that Flybe are not testing these markets from SOU though.
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TOM S17
Corfu - 1 weekly
Dalaman - 1 weekly (2 S16)
Ibiza - 1 weekly
Lanzarote - 2 weekly (1 S16)
Las Palmas - 1 weekly
Mahon - 1 weekly
Naples (New!) - 1 weekly
Palma - 4 weekly
Paphos - 1 weekly
Rhodes - 1 weekly
Tenerife - 1 weekly
Overall there is one extra weekly flight compared to S16, good to see Naples served from BOH again too.
Dalaman - 1 weekly (2 S16)
Ibiza - 1 weekly
Lanzarote - 2 weekly (1 S16)
Las Palmas - 1 weekly
Mahon - 1 weekly
Naples (New!) - 1 weekly
Palma - 4 weekly
Paphos - 1 weekly
Rhodes - 1 weekly
Tenerife - 1 weekly
Overall there is one extra weekly flight compared to S16, good to see Naples served from BOH again too.
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I think actually the extra Lanzarote is a slot filler for the Dalaman flight on a Thursday as roughly same flight departure times
They did the same thing this summer as a replacement for Antayla and replaced it with Las Palmas due to cut backs in the Turkey operation
Good to see Naples though !
They did the same thing this summer as a replacement for Antayla and replaced it with Las Palmas due to cut backs in the Turkey operation
Good to see Naples though !
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Bit of good news is Ryanair are continuing operating there Faro service through out the winter period and have released there Alicante and Malaga programme
This brings to 10 flights a week this winter as opposed to 5 last winter
Faro - 2 weekly Wed / Sat
Alicante - 2 weekly Wed / Sun
Malaga - 2 weekly Wed / Sat
Malta - 2 weekly Thu / Sun
Las Palmas - 1 weekly Sat
Tenerife - 1 weekly Thu
Thomson
Lanzarote - 2 weekly Sunday and Thursday which is an extra service this winter the rest of the Thomson schedule is the same as this winter
This brings to 10 flights a week this winter as opposed to 5 last winter
Faro - 2 weekly Wed / Sat
Alicante - 2 weekly Wed / Sun
Malaga - 2 weekly Wed / Sat
Malta - 2 weekly Thu / Sun
Las Palmas - 1 weekly Sat
Tenerife - 1 weekly Thu
Thomson
Lanzarote - 2 weekly Sunday and Thursday which is an extra service this winter the rest of the Thomson schedule is the same as this winter