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I agree with FF
Unlikely to see a big increase this year but back to pre Flybe passenger levels
What needs to happen now is for prehaps Thomson to increase some of their flight per season to some new destinations ie Crete , Zakinthos , Larnaca or Kos and use an aircraft on a W rotation from another UK base as I don't see 2 based Thomson aircraft meeting enough demand at the moment but just small increases each year
Leave the scheduled flights to Southampton which is what they are good at and leave the IT holidays to Bournemouth
Unlikely to see a big increase this year but back to pre Flybe passenger levels
What needs to happen now is for prehaps Thomson to increase some of their flight per season to some new destinations ie Crete , Zakinthos , Larnaca or Kos and use an aircraft on a W rotation from another UK base as I don't see 2 based Thomson aircraft meeting enough demand at the moment but just small increases each year
Leave the scheduled flights to Southampton which is what they are good at and leave the IT holidays to Bournemouth
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Agreed Markeyd
BOH works well on low cost IT services to the sun and ski resorts.
SOU can't be beaten with their train to plane and other transport infrastructure for scheduled high frequency short haul services.
The drive time from Bournemouth to SOU is so short SOU is basically Bournemouths local airport anyway and vice versa!
I believe because of this SWISSPORT has been able to gain economies by shifting staff & equipment when necessary between the two.
BOH works well on low cost IT services to the sun and ski resorts.
SOU can't be beaten with their train to plane and other transport infrastructure for scheduled high frequency short haul services.
The drive time from Bournemouth to SOU is so short SOU is basically Bournemouths local airport anyway and vice versa!
I believe because of this SWISSPORT has been able to gain economies by shifting staff & equipment when necessary between the two.
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If you live in west London, the train to Eastleigh/ the airport is fairly rapid and this route attracts Londoners in particular to use the Channel Isles services as it can be quicker than using Gatwick.
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Qatar Airways showing BOH in booking engine
Qatar Airways are showing Bournemouth in their booking engine.
However, the flights are into LHR with a connecting bus service to Bournemouth.
Strange as it states 'BOH' as arrival point so I am unsure if this means a bus takes you direct the BOH terminal or not.
However, the flights are into LHR with a connecting bus service to Bournemouth.
Strange as it states 'BOH' as arrival point so I am unsure if this means a bus takes you direct the BOH terminal or not.
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May Traffic
May passenger numbers up 4.7%
http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/about-us/media-centre/press-releases/manchester-airport-soars-to-new-heights-with-38th-consecutive-month-of-growth/
http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/about-us/media-centre/press-releases/manchester-airport-soars-to-new-heights-with-38th-consecutive-month-of-growth/
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Bournemouth handled 74 , 263 passengers in May up 5 % on last year
Thomson as usual got off to a good start with there summer schedule with loads all in the 96 % loads factor
Naples there new route saw 1259 passengers use the route about 180 per flight
Dalaman using Freebird A320 saw 1098 passengers which is considerably down on last year given the Turkey situation
Ryanair again had good loads on all flights including Krakow which continues to perform well and is obviously popular with the local community
Otherwise nothing much to report , very quiet to be honest with not much sign of anything new for the winter or summer so far
The Santa flights to Lapland have sold out already using Small Planet with Santa Holidays
Thomson as usual got off to a good start with there summer schedule with loads all in the 96 % loads factor
Naples there new route saw 1259 passengers use the route about 180 per flight
Dalaman using Freebird A320 saw 1098 passengers which is considerably down on last year given the Turkey situation
Ryanair again had good loads on all flights including Krakow which continues to perform well and is obviously popular with the local community
Otherwise nothing much to report , very quiet to be honest with not much sign of anything new for the winter or summer so far
The Santa flights to Lapland have sold out already using Small Planet with Santa Holidays
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EasyJet at SOU
So easyJet seem to be doing exactly what Flybe did to try to negotiate lower landing fees. Using the airport only 28miles away to apply pressure.
If this was not the case why does easyJet not fly from Cardiff (next To their Bristol base), or other similar cases? Flying from two heavily overlapping catchment areas if it is not London is madness for any business and will not be sustainable. It either means the end of BOH eventually or the temporary use of SOU to get a better deal at BOH.
If I was BOH I would be doing everything possible to ensure easyJet stay firmly focused on one airport in this catchment.
If this was not the case why does easyJet not fly from Cardiff (next To their Bristol base), or other similar cases? Flying from two heavily overlapping catchment areas if it is not London is madness for any business and will not be sustainable. It either means the end of BOH eventually or the temporary use of SOU to get a better deal at BOH.
If I was BOH I would be doing everything possible to ensure easyJet stay firmly focused on one airport in this catchment.
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I don't necessarily think that EZY have announced operations from SOU in a bid to force BOH to lower their landing fees.
I suspect it's more to do with SOU's location closer to London and the major conurbations of Hampshire and the south coast, it's increasing pax numbers and the withdrawal of Flybe from the more leisure-focussed routes after building up a demand for them, leaving a gap to be exploited. As others have said on the SOU thread, lack of Gatwick slots and a desire to eat into Heathrow's pax catchment have contributed too.
The Flybe situation was different in that SOU is a major base for them and a renegotiation of contracts may have saved them a lot of money at a time when they were struggling financially (still are!). The threat of opening a BOH base would have given them a large bargaining chip to use with SOU management, although that may have backfired in the long run with the BOH base being shut down and the flights moved to SOU, showing SOU management that no matter what Flybe said, SOU remains their priority and is way more valuable to them.
I honestly can't see that EZY would have gone to all the trouble of setting up a SOU operation purely to gain a small reduction in BOH landing fees, surely the cost of setting up at SOU would outweigh any gains at BOH?
Also, if SOU management do what's needed and actually invest airside, giving EZY adequate facilities to operate from, realistically what can BOH offer them instead, given SOU's far superior catchment area, transport links and momentum of passenger growth?
I suspect it's more to do with SOU's location closer to London and the major conurbations of Hampshire and the south coast, it's increasing pax numbers and the withdrawal of Flybe from the more leisure-focussed routes after building up a demand for them, leaving a gap to be exploited. As others have said on the SOU thread, lack of Gatwick slots and a desire to eat into Heathrow's pax catchment have contributed too.
The Flybe situation was different in that SOU is a major base for them and a renegotiation of contracts may have saved them a lot of money at a time when they were struggling financially (still are!). The threat of opening a BOH base would have given them a large bargaining chip to use with SOU management, although that may have backfired in the long run with the BOH base being shut down and the flights moved to SOU, showing SOU management that no matter what Flybe said, SOU remains their priority and is way more valuable to them.
I honestly can't see that EZY would have gone to all the trouble of setting up a SOU operation purely to gain a small reduction in BOH landing fees, surely the cost of setting up at SOU would outweigh any gains at BOH?
Also, if SOU management do what's needed and actually invest airside, giving EZY adequate facilities to operate from, realistically what can BOH offer them instead, given SOU's far superior catchment area, transport links and momentum of passenger growth?
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This SOU operation is of course being operated by EasySwiss. I wonder whether they have a degree of autonomy? I write because the route from EDI to BSL has this summer been operated by EZS, and they have delivered a higher frequency (at least 9/wk) and larger a/c (320) than EZY UK ever has. I just wonder whether the SOU route was conceived in Switzerland?
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I envisage due to reasons already laid out in posts above that EZY will at some point move the GVA route to SOU and increase frequency to maybe daily, double daily at weekends. Agreed that I don't think this has anything to do with landing fees and negotiating a better deal at BOU, instead this will be primarily lead by guaranteed foot fall as an alternative to Gatwick & Heathrow with first class road and rail links already in place to support demand (on one proviso though that air side investment is forthcoming!)
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I'm sure EZY will be glad of this as they have a CATIII airport only 30 miles away and this will minimise their transport costs back to SOU, much better than being diverted to Bristol or B'ham
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Given that there are three flights a week,and Southampton has cat 1 ILS,the chances of diversions to Hurn will be few at best,indeed given Southampton will have to increase there stand sizes to accommodate more 320s theres every chance we might get a Hurn easy diversion.
Given that there are three flights a week,and Southampton has cat 1 ILS,the chances of diversions to Hurn will be few at best,indeed given Southampton will have to increase there stand sizes to accommodate more 320s theres every chance we might get a Hurn easy diversion.
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Bournemouth handled 76 , 168 passengers in June down 6 % on last year
This is down to Ryanair not operating 2 flights a day on Wed / Thu this year to Palma and Faro and an extra service to Alicante
Loads were good again for all Thomson services including the new service to Naples which saw loads at about 180 per flight , Dalaman improved to about 165 pax per flight on a Freebird A320 .
I believe Thomson are evaluating at the moment if to re introduce this flight for next summer to Dalaman
Ryanair averaged about a 90 % load factor on there services
Otherwise very quiet again with nothing new on the horizon as far as I can see , good to see the 9 diversions on Monday filling up the ramp along with the 3 Ryanair flights looked very impressive ( a real airport ! )
This is down to Ryanair not operating 2 flights a day on Wed / Thu this year to Palma and Faro and an extra service to Alicante
Loads were good again for all Thomson services including the new service to Naples which saw loads at about 180 per flight , Dalaman improved to about 165 pax per flight on a Freebird A320 .
I believe Thomson are evaluating at the moment if to re introduce this flight for next summer to Dalaman
Ryanair averaged about a 90 % load factor on there services
Otherwise very quiet again with nothing new on the horizon as far as I can see , good to see the 9 diversions on Monday filling up the ramp along with the 3 Ryanair flights looked very impressive ( a real airport ! )
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