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Bournemouth isn't much different from many other airports in trying to extract money out of being dropped off or picked up. The difference is airports like Luton and Stansted do offer free drop off's and picks ups but are a bus ride away in distant car parks which most people don't use as they want to be dropped off close to the terminal. As Bournemouth is quite small that option isn't available as people would still walk to the terminal thus avoiding the charge.
Is it a fact then that you cannot actually walk into the airport terminal area from the nearest public highway but that you have to arrive in a vehicle? Perhaps I should say "... not allowed to walk into the airport terminal area..." as I assume it would be a physical possibility.
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My goodness, how can it create such interest!
Dropping off at an airport isn't as quick or simple as dropping off at the local library where people are just going to jump out. So the airport is really trying to address the previously free 10min car-park. But introducing a fee for that would push people to just dropping off - but that would mean clogging up space outside the terminal.
Dropping off at an airport isn't as quick or simple as dropping off at the local library where people are just going to jump out. So the airport is really trying to address the previously free 10min car-park. But introducing a fee for that would push people to just dropping off - but that would mean clogging up space outside the terminal.
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Some facts and figures
Anyone interested in the progress of BOH - including parking charges, route development and other items - might like to read the airport consultative committee report issued a few days ago:
http://www.bournemouthairport.com/bo..._July_2015.pdf
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http://www.bournemouthairport.com/bo..._July_2015.pdf
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This is a cynical charge exploiting people dropping off pax & taking 5 mins to do so. I don't think that it clogs up the forecourt either. At least not at a fairly quiet airport like Bournemouth.
I suppose that if the airport doesn't get the passenger with a dropping off charge it will get the equivalent amount from some other charge; possibly equally as frivolous. So, we end up paying anyway. either way, the passenger loses out.
I suppose that if the airport doesn't get the passenger with a dropping off charge it will get the equivalent amount from some other charge; possibly equally as frivolous. So, we end up paying anyway. either way, the passenger loses out.
either way, the passenger loses out.
There is also the possibility that without charges like this the airport would not be viable for passenger operations. I suppose then there would not be any passengers to "lose out"!
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As has been said BOH is not the only regional airport to charge for drop-off; many do so.
I can remember the time a generation ago when many smaller UK regional airports had few scheduled flights and where they were operated the fares were very high compared with today's low-cost airlines.
In those days the smaller airports made much of their money through airlines paying the full charges for the services they provided. Nowadays low cost airlines demand next to nothing charges in return for which they will bring a substantial footfall of passengers through an airport.
The airport therefore has to make its money from ancillary sources such as car parking (including drop off), retail outlets, trolley charges, fast track security etc.
If an airline was to put a pound or two on a ticket I doubt that many customers would complain, if they even noticed. Put the same pound or two on a charge for drop-off parking and complaints come from everywhere.
My local airport is BRS and I can visit, say, GLA or EDi for around £50 there and back with a decent frequency too. Contrast that to 25 years ago when BRS had hardly any Scottish flights and those that did operate cost £150-£200 return at 1990s levels. I know which of these two situations I prefer and if a couple of quid drop-off fee is the price to pay it's really nothing in the overall context.
I can remember the time a generation ago when many smaller UK regional airports had few scheduled flights and where they were operated the fares were very high compared with today's low-cost airlines.
In those days the smaller airports made much of their money through airlines paying the full charges for the services they provided. Nowadays low cost airlines demand next to nothing charges in return for which they will bring a substantial footfall of passengers through an airport.
The airport therefore has to make its money from ancillary sources such as car parking (including drop off), retail outlets, trolley charges, fast track security etc.
If an airline was to put a pound or two on a ticket I doubt that many customers would complain, if they even noticed. Put the same pound or two on a charge for drop-off parking and complaints come from everywhere.
My local airport is BRS and I can visit, say, GLA or EDi for around £50 there and back with a decent frequency too. Contrast that to 25 years ago when BRS had hardly any Scottish flights and those that did operate cost £150-£200 return at 1990s levels. I know which of these two situations I prefer and if a couple of quid drop-off fee is the price to pay it's really nothing in the overall context.
I simply think that it leaves a sour taste in the mouth, especially if you turn up without realising that you have to pay this charge. OK, so I know that they levy it at Bournemouth, so I'm not going to turn up there oblivious. Come to think of it, I'm not likely to turn up there anyway as it's not an airport that I frequent. But, there are others where I will encounter this unexpectedly.
Out of interest, if you arrive (or depart) in a bus or taxi is this charge added to your fare ?
I take the point about LCCS & the availability of low fares compared to the past, but it is a bit of a dampener when you discover all the extras added to your, otherwise, low cost fare. And, are ALL fares on LCCS low cost ? That has not been my total experience with these carriers (one of which is Flybe, which has definitely not always been low cost).
I would also like to have the opportunity (if it doesn't exist) of being able to avoid this charge by walking in, or whatever.
Out of interest, if you arrive (or depart) in a bus or taxi is this charge added to your fare ?
I take the point about LCCS & the availability of low fares compared to the past, but it is a bit of a dampener when you discover all the extras added to your, otherwise, low cost fare. And, are ALL fares on LCCS low cost ? That has not been my total experience with these carriers (one of which is Flybe, which has definitely not always been low cost).
I would also like to have the opportunity (if it doesn't exist) of being able to avoid this charge by walking in, or whatever.
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The Royal Mail is pulling out completely so no more jet2 or Atlantic airlines at Bournemouth. Surprised this hasn't been talked about yet as it was pretty much announced 2 months ago. So yes it will be a big hit to the airports coffers and pretty much an end to it being open 24 hrs
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Totally agree with you " Merchant but lets put this subject to bed now on airport drop off fees its becoming rather dull …..
No one is going to agree on this …… price of democracy and thank goodness for that , good views on both side but its not just relevant to BOH its all regional / small airports at the moment in the UK
Royal Mail very worrying but agin its been on the cards for ages now , i am guessing the Channel Islands news paper / mail flights will still operate though
The Jet 2 / Express Air hangar on the apron needs to go , been part of the furniture at the airport for how many years now ? or at least move it somewhere else but i believe its a listed building is this correct ?
No one is going to agree on this …… price of democracy and thank goodness for that , good views on both side but its not just relevant to BOH its all regional / small airports at the moment in the UK
Royal Mail very worrying but agin its been on the cards for ages now , i am guessing the Channel Islands news paper / mail flights will still operate though
The Jet 2 / Express Air hangar on the apron needs to go , been part of the furniture at the airport for how many years now ? or at least move it somewhere else but i believe its a listed building is this correct ?
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No that means the whole lot will go, no mail or papers from Bournemouth. I can't see the point of this drop off charge conversation, I'd rather pay the £2.50 if there's a choice between London or going from my local airport. No I don't agree with the drop off but for picking up yes. Back before this was introduced people used to double park everywhere it was an accident waiting to happen. So in a way it's a good thing they're charging.
From next year the national newspapers will be printed in Jersey & distributed by sea to the other islands. The mail I guess could move anywhere, does SOU have a Royal Mail dept?
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It does right next to the airport boundary fence. Unfortunately when BAA sold off the family silver to smooth the passage of re-developing the airport site they locked the airport into punitive night movement restrictions. Resulting in only 10 per month permitted scheduled movements between 2300-0600 HRs, thereby precluding any regular night flights.
It does right next to the airport boundary fence. Unfortunately when BAA sold off the family silver to smooth the passage of re-developing the airport site they locked the airport into punitive night movement restrictions. Resulting in only 10 per month permitted scheduled movements between 2300-0600 HRs, thereby precluding any regular night flights.
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Regarding the printing of newspapers in Jersey, an application has been made for a digital printing unit to be installed in a disused warehouse but there have already been objections from local residents as of course, the papers will have to be printed during the night, so hold your horses on that one.
As to the mail situation any number of airports on the mainland could be used I would go for Stansted myself if I was a betting man.
As to the mail situation any number of airports on the mainland could be used I would go for Stansted myself if I was a betting man.
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I doubt the airport will go into 'red' as the airport does not rely entirely on mail flights. There is a considerable GA base in Bournemouth, also the business park revenues & private aviation firms spread across the airfield, also nearly all the new Flybe routes are performing above budget, thus they are slowly building up performance. As for job losses, I don't know.
In regards to the drop off fee, the people of Bournemouth & Dorset should count their lucky stars that there is a local airport on their doorstep, the fee is like a convenience charge. If people rather spend out more on rail fares/fuel costs to go to Southampton or one of the London airports, then that's their choice, but I reckon 99% of the time they will be losing money in doing so.
I doubt the airport will go into 'red' as the airport does not rely entirely on mail flights. There is a considerable GA base in Bournemouth, also the business park revenues & private aviation firms spread across the airfield, also nearly all the new Flybe routes are performing above budget, thus they are slowly building up performance. As for job losses, I don't know.
In regards to the drop off fee, the people of Bournemouth & Dorset should count their lucky stars that there is a local airport on their doorstep, the fee is like a convenience charge. If people rather spend out more on rail fares/fuel costs to go to Southampton or one of the London airports, then that's their choice, but I reckon 99% of the time they will be losing money in doing so.