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GA (light aircraft and flying schools) at Bournemouth is being squeezed out.
Commercial Routes are tried but disappear again
The airport finance budget was squeezed last year and redundancies announced yet MAG have £1.5 billion to spend??
Finance companies either want to see businesses making money or being within a few ££'s of financial projections or will not hesitate to pull the plug. With that style of finance behind MAG, I can see the knives out for the loss-making parts of the group. Bournemouth is failing to attract and keep carriers, even with it's nice new white elephant of a terminal. It is making a loss.
I would lay odds on MAG already having an application into the local council for planning permission to shut the airport and turn it into an industrial park.
Commercial Routes are tried but disappear again
The airport finance budget was squeezed last year and redundancies announced yet MAG have £1.5 billion to spend??
Finance companies either want to see businesses making money or being within a few ££'s of financial projections or will not hesitate to pull the plug. With that style of finance behind MAG, I can see the knives out for the loss-making parts of the group. Bournemouth is failing to attract and keep carriers, even with it's nice new white elephant of a terminal. It is making a loss.
I would lay odds on MAG already having an application into the local council for planning permission to shut the airport and turn it into an industrial park.
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New route for BOH.
Bournemouth Echo has reported Aer Lingus is changing the departure time of the BOH-DUB to 12.05 in June 2013 in order for pax to make the interconnecting leg to NYC from DUB
Not sure if the airport will market the route as BOH-NYC?
Aer Lingus (Aer Arran) will continue to use the ATR for the time being for the BOH-DUB leg.
Hopefully if the loads pick up then they will start to use a larger a/c.
Bournemouth Echo has reported Aer Lingus is changing the departure time of the BOH-DUB to 12.05 in June 2013 in order for pax to make the interconnecting leg to NYC from DUB
Not sure if the airport will market the route as BOH-NYC?
Aer Lingus (Aer Arran) will continue to use the ATR for the time being for the BOH-DUB leg.
Hopefully if the loads pick up then they will start to use a larger a/c.
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Not sure about the NYC connection, as it's currently 10.45 and 15.45 out of Dublin to JFK. Obviously the latter is the only viable option but that's quite a lengthy connection time.
Out of interest, does anyone know what type of passenger makes up the current BOH-DUB traffic?
Out of interest, does anyone know what type of passenger makes up the current BOH-DUB traffic?
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Not sure about the NYC connection, as it's currently 10.45 and 15.45 out of Dublin to JFK. Obviously the latter is the only viable option but that's quite a lengthy connection time.
Out of interest, does anyone know what type of passenger makes up the current BOH-DUB traffic?
Out of interest, does anyone know what type of passenger makes up the current BOH-DUB traffic?
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I wasn't picking up on the use of NYC actually. I'm just not sure the connection to JFK makes sense. Business types would probably go for a direct flight from LHR, but price sensitive pax might put up with the rather lengthy total journey time.
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Dont quite get what your talking about ?
All thats happening is that an airline is trying to get a few more passengers to fly on the route , ( as any business would do ) so just advertising thats its possible to fly to New York , Boston and Chicago via Dublin than going up to LHR
Local news paper being blasted for advertising this new re timing by Aer Lingus , by the usual small minded group of twats who are still blaming the drop of fee for the car park , as single handily bringing the down fall of the airport
All thats happening is that an airline is trying to get a few more passengers to fly on the route , ( as any business would do ) so just advertising thats its possible to fly to New York , Boston and Chicago via Dublin than going up to LHR
Local news paper being blasted for advertising this new re timing by Aer Lingus , by the usual small minded group of twats who are still blaming the drop of fee for the car park , as single handily bringing the down fall of the airport
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It clearly matters to Dorset people who are spending 100's of quid on a holiday that £2.50 to get dropped off is £2.50 too far but what do you expect from a race not used to driving on Motorways! Some of the trolls will only be happy if the place becomes a GA Aerodrome.
It clearly matters to Dorset people who are spending 100's of quid on a holiday that £2.50 to get dropped off is £2.50 too far but what do you expect from a race not used to driving on Motorways! Some of the trolls will only be happy if the place becomes a GA Aerodrome.
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I noticed the other day that Leeds Bradford charge £6 for minibus dropping off. Next time I'm at the airport I'll suggest it to a member of staff that they're missing a trick! That's send Victor up to 30,000ft without the use of a RYR 738.
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The Victor Meldrew vibe is indicative of the type of market Hurn falls back on. I.e. the Bath Travel brigade and those who want to further ruin the ugly part of Spain but only have their pension to pay for it hence Ryanair.
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Last flight of Blue Islands to Jersey tomorrow for the second time , loads of roughly 13 per flight out of 19 just not good enough with prices and schedules and advertising not enough for them
Really disappointing as BOH now the only UK airport again with no direct link even in the summer to the channel islands
Even a good holiday company like CI travel have contracts from Inverness to Exeter in the summer with Jersey but not Bournemouth with even 1 flight on Saturday with a small airline
Good old Dan Air with the 748 / Viscount managed an amazing schedule in the 80 s but times have so moved on !
Bournemouth is exactly the same as last summer with the same schedule as Thomson / Ryanair and New Market nothing new
Really disappointing as BOH now the only UK airport again with no direct link even in the summer to the channel islands
Even a good holiday company like CI travel have contracts from Inverness to Exeter in the summer with Jersey but not Bournemouth with even 1 flight on Saturday with a small airline
Good old Dan Air with the 748 / Viscount managed an amazing schedule in the 80 s but times have so moved on !
Bournemouth is exactly the same as last summer with the same schedule as Thomson / Ryanair and New Market nothing new
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Interesting
Good to see the airport advertising in the route shop:
Bournemouth Airport (BOH/EGHH) | The Route Shop
As for those Dan Air channel Island flights, most of the seats were sold by SAGA holidays. The islands can't compete against the alternatives in Spain and elsewhere. SAGA left that market.
All those tourists have been lost to the islands.
Jersey used to handle 1.5m pax a each year in the early 80s, if you check today you will see that tree has been no growth since then, dreadful.
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Bournemouth Airport (BOH/EGHH) | The Route Shop
As for those Dan Air channel Island flights, most of the seats were sold by SAGA holidays. The islands can't compete against the alternatives in Spain and elsewhere. SAGA left that market.
All those tourists have been lost to the islands.
Jersey used to handle 1.5m pax a each year in the early 80s, if you check today you will see that tree has been no growth since then, dreadful.
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Bath Travel have added another day trip to Venice on the 1st April, not saying who is operating it currently but I'd guess BA Cityflyer again or Thomson. They also have a Rome day trip on the 18th March operated by Thomson.
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Its actually been on sale for a couple of months now only put on the airport web recently
Believe it to be a Thomson flight as Monday is the down time day for the a/c as is the Rome flight on Mon 18 March
These flights have been incredibly popular as have all 4 Northern lights charter all sold out , again using Thomson
Shame Bath Travel cant test the water this summer with a Palma flight at the weekend using BA City Flyer , the right type of aircraft for the route
Believe it to be a Thomson flight as Monday is the down time day for the a/c as is the Rome flight on Mon 18 March
These flights have been incredibly popular as have all 4 Northern lights charter all sold out , again using Thomson
Shame Bath Travel cant test the water this summer with a Palma flight at the weekend using BA City Flyer , the right type of aircraft for the route
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BBC News - Aviation firm Cobham announces Bournemouth and Teesside job cuts
I know this has been 'sort of' covered on the DTV thread but for the people that work at Cobham this is a major blow. One has to wonder how much this decision is based on the loss of the remaining A330 Tanker Conversions to Seville.
Cobham are it seems going back to their roots in supporting just the Falcon fleet for Defence Electronics, EW Training and Target Towing. I worked as a Hangar rat (Avionics) for Cobham at Bournemouth for 15 years during its transition to becoming the biggest F20 operator in the world.
Deep strip conversions including glass cockpit installations, Cabin conversions, Modifications, C checks and D checks of their own fleet and aircraft belonging to 3rd party private owners are what it does best.
What a shame they didn't extend the capability to other Falcon types and other biz jets and actively advertise their capabilities more fully. Instead they allowed the likes of Jet Aviation in Switzerland to corner the biz jet market.
I believe they lost the plot somewhat by taking on the Nimrod Conversions and it seems, more latterly, the A330.
My heart goes out to those who are directly affected by this latest round of redundancies. As I found out the hard way, its a bitter pill to swallow and there is little work out there when you are getting a bit past it... ie 50+
I know this has been 'sort of' covered on the DTV thread but for the people that work at Cobham this is a major blow. One has to wonder how much this decision is based on the loss of the remaining A330 Tanker Conversions to Seville.
Cobham are it seems going back to their roots in supporting just the Falcon fleet for Defence Electronics, EW Training and Target Towing. I worked as a Hangar rat (Avionics) for Cobham at Bournemouth for 15 years during its transition to becoming the biggest F20 operator in the world.
Deep strip conversions including glass cockpit installations, Cabin conversions, Modifications, C checks and D checks of their own fleet and aircraft belonging to 3rd party private owners are what it does best.
What a shame they didn't extend the capability to other Falcon types and other biz jets and actively advertise their capabilities more fully. Instead they allowed the likes of Jet Aviation in Switzerland to corner the biz jet market.
I believe they lost the plot somewhat by taking on the Nimrod Conversions and it seems, more latterly, the A330.
My heart goes out to those who are directly affected by this latest round of redundancies. As I found out the hard way, its a bitter pill to swallow and there is little work out there when you are getting a bit past it... ie 50+
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I believe they lost the plot somewhat by taking on the Nimrod Conversionsand it seems, more latterly, the A330.
As the major supplier of in-flight refueling equipment the Voyager contract made a lot of sense. What did not make sense was Cobham suddenly deciding they did not want it anymore and virtually handing it to Airbus.
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Cobham willingly handed back millions of pounds worth of work and made 320 people redundant, just because they didn't fancy finishing the contract? I think there must have been a bit more to it than that!
"Cobham and Airbus Military have mutually recognised that it is the best way of meeting their own commitments and have taken the responsible decision to transfer the work," said AirTanker chief executive Phill Blundell, adding that the change would help the consortium deliver the planes to the UK "on time and to cost".
Okay, slightly more to it. Cobham may have realised that they could not deliver on time. (Cobham is a major shareholder in AirTanker)
Okay, slightly more to it. Cobham may have realised that they could not deliver on time. (Cobham is a major shareholder in AirTanker)
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Used to work for Cobham not so long ago and there's definitely a lot of face-saving in that press release! The cost to muddle through and pay the LD's was just too great I suppose, so better to agree a handover. Obviously, not so good for the 320 being made redundant though.