BOURNEMOUTH - 3

[Nakata77]

Great news, about time! Hopefully this will encourage other airlines like KLM to consider Bournemouth. Bournemouth was the fastest growing airport in July (apart from London Southend - but this was from a next to zero baseline) in the whole of the UK.

[bohpilot]

Unlikely for KLM

I work as flight deck for KLM Cityhopper and on numerous occasions I have pointed out to the CEO that Bournemouth has a good catchment area.

However the last time they made contact with the airport the discussions were not good, (ground costs apparently) and so they went with a code share with FlyBE out of Southampton.

A big shame but i think there was not enough incentive to start operations....

[pottwiddler]

Bohpilot, no harm in trying again, and sound like your negotiation team didn't try hard enough. I'm sure KLM or anyone flying to AMS will get a great yield as well as good load factors using a F70 or E-190.

[bohpilot]

Maybe, but in these times i think it is the airports that need to bid for business from the airlines..

[9287Excellent]

It would be nice to see a global carrier with a regular service into Bournemouth, be it KLM or maybe even Lufthansa cityline or someone like that! Although, I do agree with the above statement about the airports having to bid to the airlines, particularly in Bournemouth's case, they have had a lot of airlines start up there in recent years, sadly with very few success stories. It be nice if Aer Lingus Regional start the rumoured second daily flight into BOH, its nice to see a different Irish airline over at the terminal!

[Nakata77]

Bournemouth has had more than its fair share of failures, but Bournemouth has never really had a global airline. The closest to this is actually the current Aer Lingus service. before that it was Pan Am, American and QANTAS but that was a long time ago!

I think Bournemouth's potential can be realised with the right mix of airlines. We have seen the success of Ryanair, for example. KLM offers something that Bournemouth has never had before - feed on to global network of destinations. Considering the 000's of people who flock to Bournemouth via LHR from Korea, Europe, Taiwan and China for the local language schools there should be a good foundation on which to build a successful connecting traffic demand.

BOHPILOT - It would shock me if it was true that the airport hadn't bent over backwards to try and get KLM in if they were ever talking.

[shamrock7seal]

KLM City Hopper would be a good fit. I would use the service every month.

[MARKEYD]

I think KLM or Easy Jet would have already tried the Amsterdam route if they thought is was going to bring in the yield .
Thomson had great loads on both the Amsterdam and Paris but probably made little money and was never advertised about onward connections

Its going to take a long and frustrating time still to encourage airlines to use Bournemouth . Everything is in place now ready to go ie . new terminal , improved runway and apron but still terrible transport access to the airport and poor relations about the on going car park charges

Lets hope the airport can pull in Aer Lingus to operate another flight , its only been 3 months since they started and good loads are begining to appear . Hopefully Thomson may increase there work here ( great shame no more Carribean flghts after next year ) and as for Ryanair who knows !

Does anyone know when they are putting any flights on sale for Feb onwards i know this time last year they had already announced the summer schedule and put it on sale ( hence a good summer for them from here this year )

[shamrock7seal]

None of Ryanair's 50 or so bases for summer 13 are on sale yet.

Expect them to go up in the next 1 - 2 months. They are fixing some technical glitches apparently with their booking system before they release.

[Nakata77]

Newmarket 2013

Newmarket holidays have added 4 departures in May'13 and 2 in Jun'13 so far. Seems like a big increase in monthly departures compared to this May. I have a feeling more will be loaded since they tend to do a lot more in Autumn, Sep and Oct in particular. They are also offering TFS during the Winter season. BOH is apparently their largest departure point outside London.

[MARKEYD]

Bournemouth handled 94 , 124 passengers in August up 16 % on last year

Loads were good on all routes with the new Dublin route carrying 2896 passengers making it a load factor of 75 % which is really good news for this particular route

The new Ryanair routes to Carcassone was 86 % , Rhodes was 75 % and Malta was 92 % . Wraclaw has not been published yet

Bath Travel have sold out on the 2 Venice charters using BA EMB 195 aircraft in Oct and have added a day trip to Ivalo for the Northern lights and Rome using a Thomson 737

[airsmiles]

Well this must be a record. I've driven past the airport on 4 occasions in the past 7 days, and in day time, and each time there hasn't been a single aircraft in the terminal. Not even the Atlantic/Titan a/c.

Do they tow the aircraft somewhere else before I arrive or is it really that quiet?

[Phalconphixer]

Well this must be a record. I've driven past the airport on 4 occasions in the past 7 days, and in day time, and each time there hasn't been a single aircraft in the terminal. Not even the Atlantic/Titan a/c.

Talk about a one airline airport... well, not quite but near enough...Just looked at departures and Arrivals for tomorrow... and it's not a pretty sight... 10 arrivals, 7 of which are Ryanair, 2 Thomson and 1 Aer Lingus.

Dont for petes sake upset M.O'L... he's got Bournemouth by the short and curlies and he knows it...

It's a sight busier than when I was there between 1990 and 2005 (there is a clue in the username...) but this heavy reliance on one airline cannot be a good thing in the long-term... if there is such a thing as long-term where Ryanair Operations are concerned.
pp.

[MARKEYD]

Ryanair seem to be taking there time with Bournemouth in releasing flights for next year with nothing from Feb onwards still , all other UK airports are on sale for the Winter / Spring

This time last year there summer programme had been released , guess there still trying to get the best deal from BOH !

[airsmiles]

Well it's busier than when I used to live nearby in the 1970's. Apart from the Jersey/Guernsey puddle-jumpers, the only holiday flights were Mondays and Tuesdays I think. Dan-Air Comets/B727's and BCAL 1-11's mostly with the occasional Spanish charter airline.

Maybe if they changed the name to Bournemouth (London) Airport they'd have more success? Seems a shame they can't take a few long-haul O&D flights from Heathrow and put that long-ish runway to good use.

[adfly]

Its a 2 hour + drive from London!! Not even MOL advertises BOH as a London airport! Its a nice thought, but any BOH expansion will most likely be within europe, primarily low cost with small doses of regional and charter flights for good measure.

[Rivet Joint]

Why not ask MOL by sending him an email/tweet, i've heard he is not shy in replying .

Surely a vulture like MOL would be expanding at Hurn if it currently had a business case? I suspect the existing operation is nothing more than pin money for him.

[Nakata77]

Ryanair

According to a poster who seems in the 'know' on the Ryanair thread Ryanair will be re-opening the BOH base from 1st Feb. I have asked why there are still no FR flights on sale though from this date. He says that the BOH loads, yields and in-flight sales are among the highest in the network. If that is true, why on earth are FR not basing 5 aircraft!?

[Groundloop]

If that is true, why on earth are FR not basing 5 aircraft!?

Probably because of their history of previous routes tried at BOH that they feel that they have the money-making routes covered.

[BOH]

Is there no one on this thread from the airport who can hint if there are any new/different routes next year? Would love to go somewhere a bit different!