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Old 22nd Sep 2012, 09:38
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And in 10 years from now I guess Filton will be another housing estate.
Part of it already is and plans are afoot to build houses on a lot of the remainder well inside ten years. The aviation industries remain though.

Returning to the CWL theme, from time to time embryonic 'plans' surface for a Severnside airport by the estuary to replace both CWL and BRS. Filton might well have become that airport, albeit a bit inland from the estuary bank.

So the fact that Fiton was never developed is good news for South Wales in the sense that the Principality retains its own independent airport.
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Vueling

Excellent news today that CWL's new attraction Vueling VY are to serve Malaga AGP direct next summer starting 02 April, frequency at 3 x weekly.

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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 10:51
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It is great news PP however at the moment no flights are on sale for PMI which was 3 x weekly this year. This route is not showing as an indirect route either so maybe not released yet.

BCN is also showing as a 2 x weekly which is a drop from 3 x weekly.

It will be great to see Vueling back next year and im praying for the return of PMI.

Possibly more news on its way so time for a glass half full mentally I think from now on.
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The airline have almost no routes on sale from PMI yet so I wouldn't worry about it not being out yet. Vueling have said a recently that a new base outside Spain would be opened next summer. Is there any chance that Cardiff could be in with a chance. Would be great for the airport if it happened.
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Cardiff Airport to get major overhaul and new route


Some good news !
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 14:39
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More information on the Vueling routes hase been release by Cardiff Airport - click here

A statement by Cardiff Airport has also been included to AirGuru's article above - Updated Article here

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Old 25th Sep 2012, 07:37
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A new article found this morning states that 35% extra seats will be offered by Vueling in Summer 2013 from Cardiff compared to this year.

Palma de Mallorca route is still being evaluated.

Hopefull Helvetic service will resume in Summer 2013

First Minister anticipating announcements about more routes in the future

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World Routes

An official press release has been released by CWL on their attendance at the World Routes conference in Abu Dhabi. As with most other airports they are hoping to find new routes and carriers as a result of attending, as a re many of us users and supporters in the region.

Airport and Welsh Government go far to entice airlines to Wales

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Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood is calling for the Welsh Government to take a stake in Cardiff Airport according to an article released today - click to view article

What are your opinions on this?

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Old 4th Oct 2012, 11:14
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How would Govt buying part of the private airport company contribute to improving passenger numbers ?
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Well if MoD St. Athan is at it says, owned by the Ministry of Defence (Air) who are, in turn, British government owned and paid for by the British taxpayer then if CWL is to be, part or wholly, owned by the Welsh Government, who are in turn funded by the British government, who are in turn funded by the British taxpayer, then I'd suggest ..... "2 state owned commercial aerodromes within spitting distance of each other? ... Someone needs to get a grip on reality and explain to this Welsh government bunch of clowns that taxpayers money is hard earned and doesn't grow on trees"!
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A poll has now been created on this subject.

Do you agree with Plaid Cymru AM Leanne Wood that the Welsh Government should have a stake in Cardiff Airport? vote now
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Thanks all the same but I think I'll pass, I need to put the cockroaches and lizards out before retiring for the evening.
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You lucky boy Phileas,I've gotta deal with the bears and the cougars!
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So putting the cat out might be a tougher job than I expected !!!
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Old 4th Oct 2012, 19:35
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Allowing politicians to get their hands on anything is the kiss of death. Unfortunately, most of the people who had completed this poll seemed to think otherwise.

If you want CWL to prosper, it needs dynamic management, reduced overheads, access to investment and a stronger economy. None of these will be offered by a politically-aligned management.
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So should the Welsh Government have a stake in Cardiff Airport?

At present it does seem that the Welsh Government is working closer together with Cardiff Airport and taking a more hands on approach by visitng Farnborough Airshow and Routes with Cardiff Airport. A joint approach afterall can only be a positive one especially is it was what Wales Air Forum called for in the previous ACC meeting.


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The Welsh Government does not have a published policy on Welsh Aviation and therefore such a move could be regarded as dangerous and certainly a waste of time, resources and public money.


The Cardiff Airport Task Force is missing one vital perspective that needs to be looked at and that is one of the airline/tour operator. Afterall nobody is going to know what an airline is looking for more than an airline itself


Now if an aviation expert asside from those at Cardiff Airport had a place on the task force it would be one thing however a Union representative brings no value to the debate at all.

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Old 4th Oct 2012, 21:15
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"Airport and Welsh Government go far to entice airlines to Wales"

...or a 'Jolly' in other terms. Nice work if you can get it, easier than doing the job properly.

Whoever organises these Routes conferences must be laughing all the way to the back.

At least they fill column inches in local rags all over the country...
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Old 4th Oct 2012, 21:31
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With all due respect SWBKCB it was where Cardiff Airport first started discussions with Vueling.

The Welsh Government hadn't really paid that much an interest in Cardiff Airport until recently. Many has called for a joint up approach to trying to attract airlines and routes to Cardiff Airport which thankfully is exactly what is happening.

I wouldn't however rely solely on the Welsh Government who seems to have no experience in this field. Look at what's happened to Wales since the Welsh tourist board and Welsh Development Agency were taken in house.

The reluctance to find ways of legally supporting a 5 x weekly New York service which would cost similar to what is currently being paid to the Anglesey route. This would have been in place for the 2010 Ryder Cup at the Celtic Manor. Welsh Government sat on a report that they themselves commissioned which agreed the New York would be of benefit to Wales.
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Old 4th Oct 2012, 23:13
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Look at what's happened to Wales since the Welsh tourist board and Welsh Development Agency were taken in house.
Erm...what has happened?
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