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In the short term do not expect too much but consolidate and grow slowly and retain.
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That does sound true SecondDog, back in 2007 when the airport was having the 'time of its life', Abertis offered an investment package of £20 Million, and the WG would give an extra bit on top. 2012, still no investment at all, and air services are floundering at our feet.
At least the last few months have seen some positives. For example, the re-introduction of a SFB route, Vueling, slight TOM expansion for S13.
At least the last few months have seen some positives. For example, the re-introduction of a SFB route, Vueling, slight TOM expansion for S13.
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That does sound true SecondDog, back in 2007 when the airport was having the 'time of its life', Abertis offered an investment package of £20 Million, and the WG would give an extra bit on top. 2012, still no investment at all, and air services are floundering at our feet.
At least the last few months have seen some positives. For example, the re-introduction of a SFB route, Vueling, slight TOM expansion for S13.
At least the last few months have seen some positives. For example, the re-introduction of a SFB route, Vueling, slight TOM expansion for S13.
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Sorry EI-BUD, I couldn't let the Vueling, nice little airline comment rest! They aren't! They're just as bad as all the other LoCo's and would sell their own mothers for an extra dollar. They treat their staff poorly and their customers little better, see below for independent comment.
Vueling Airlines Customer Reviews | SKYTRAX
http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...e-gipsies.html
Vueling Airlines Customer Reviews | SKYTRAX
http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...e-gipsies.html
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TOM has added an extra rotation to AGP for the Summer of 2013. Good news, this route has always been popular from CWL, and this clearly shows !
Vueling was on about taking the route up, but instead they opted for PMI, but it is great to see such an established operator to increase its frequencies !
Vueling was on about taking the route up, but instead they opted for PMI, but it is great to see such an established operator to increase its frequencies !
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Helvetic Airways
Helvetic Airways have published Winter flights Oct to Mar from BRS to ZRH, different flight times to what they are now, but same days!
Good news for Bristol, but I fear not so good for Cardiff as no sign of any flights continuing over the water this winter as with the double drop in the Summer schedule!
Good news for Bristol, but I fear not so good for Cardiff as no sign of any flights continuing over the water this winter as with the double drop in the Summer schedule!
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Looks like TCX have scrapped FUE from CWL from 17th November. Route did go 2 weekly this winter and now it has gone all together. 2 charters are scheduled in Oct 2013 but that is it.
But NBE is now 2 weekly for Summer 2013.
But NBE is now 2 weekly for Summer 2013.
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some good news this morning BBC News - Vueling considers more flights from Cardiff Airport
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Whilst downsizing from an A320 to an A319 on the CWL - BCN service.
I guess that goes someway towards confirming that CWLs primary customer base is sunshine destination holidaymakers. Nothing wrong with that as far as I'm concerned, but it's important that the powers that be realise and acknowledge this and not spend taxpayers money on trying to make CWL into something it's not.
I guess that goes someway towards confirming that CWLs primary customer base is sunshine destination holidaymakers. Nothing wrong with that as far as I'm concerned, but it's important that the powers that be realise and acknowledge this and not spend taxpayers money on trying to make CWL into something it's not.
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To be honest a A320 with 180 cax was always going to be a bit on the large side. In the past both Thomson and BmiBaby operated the route with 148 cax 733 aircraft. In view of this the A319 reduced cax will be much better aligned with demand.
Any cax added for S2013 you can bet will be around routes from CWL that have proven viability, increased frequencies on ALC and PMI, prob add AGP. If they want to take a punt then maybe add IBZ and MAH - all solid performing moneymakers in the summer
Any cax added for S2013 you can bet will be around routes from CWL that have proven viability, increased frequencies on ALC and PMI, prob add AGP. If they want to take a punt then maybe add IBZ and MAH - all solid performing moneymakers in the summer
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These next potential route from Vueling is likely to be Malaga however they were not encouraged by the yield figures obtained by bmibaby while they operated the route. If they can find a way of increasing the yield on this route then it may work well.
It is difficult to see where the other routes may appear from as it will be required to operate to/from a base or on a W pattern with a base. Another longshot maybe a return of lo-cost flights to Amsterdam.
mustrum_ridcully, the powers that have realised that they cannot solely rely on summer holiday traffic which has seen a major decline due to the ecenomic climate. What they are seeking are relistic viable links to key destinations which can be of use to the business traveller and bring passengers into the country.
The South Wales economy needs a boost however we are now in the chicken or the egg situation. The airlines needs the business and potential passengers in place to make it viable. The businesses need airlines to connect them to key destinations to entice them to set up in South Wales. So either the airlines or businesses needs to assistance from the Welsh Government.
Now we have the St Athan Enterprize Zone & the Cardiff Central Business District that both are required to be a success. We have had a encouraging start from St Athan allthough things have gone quiet but the Central Business District has been very quiet.
It is difficult to see where the other routes may appear from as it will be required to operate to/from a base or on a W pattern with a base. Another longshot maybe a return of lo-cost flights to Amsterdam.
mustrum_ridcully, the powers that have realised that they cannot solely rely on summer holiday traffic which has seen a major decline due to the ecenomic climate. What they are seeking are relistic viable links to key destinations which can be of use to the business traveller and bring passengers into the country.
The South Wales economy needs a boost however we are now in the chicken or the egg situation. The airlines needs the business and potential passengers in place to make it viable. The businesses need airlines to connect them to key destinations to entice them to set up in South Wales. So either the airlines or businesses needs to assistance from the Welsh Government.
Now we have the St Athan Enterprize Zone & the Cardiff Central Business District that both are required to be a success. We have had a encouraging start from St Athan allthough things have gone quiet but the Central Business District has been very quiet.
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Vueling Route to Barcelona
Does anybody know if Vueling route is being extended across the winter (doesn't seem to be flights on sale), is it summer only or simply axed?
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It will just be a summer route this year. VY have publicly said that they are slightly concerned with the performance of the route and are down sizing to an A319 over August. But they have also stated they are to have more flights to CWL for 2013.
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Interesting article "Cardiff Airport sees further drop in passenger numbers" which, I suppose, outlines what we all expected BUT it also states that the airport have put on hold their search for a new MD...good or bad thing? Suppose what it does mean is that Barcelona will be pulling more strings...
Cardiff Airport sees further drop in passenger numbers. « officialwan
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Cardiff Airport sees further drop in passenger numbers. « officialwan
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It certainly does sound that way, it could be more beneficial for a current member of staff to be promoted to the MD role anyhow, as they already have an idea of the situation that the airport is in !
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Welsh customers get more cruise options for less
This will help improve the loads on Vueling and Monarch flights, as it mentions that all 3 VY services and the MON flights to SFB will be utilised to transport passengers to the ships. Every little helps ...
This will help improve the loads on Vueling and Monarch flights, as it mentions that all 3 VY services and the MON flights to SFB will be utilised to transport passengers to the ships. Every little helps ...
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typical media 'dramatised' headline there is no mention that the customers are actually "Welsh" ... there's no such nationality as "Welsh" anyway!
Benjamin, or should I address you as "Air Guru" ... When are you going to come out and admit to being a 14 ish year old schoolchild and NOT a 39 year old Airbus Captain?
Benjamin, or should I address you as "Air Guru" ... When are you going to come out and admit to being a 14 ish year old schoolchild and NOT a 39 year old Airbus Captain?