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Does anyone reading this forum understand what EU law does and doesn't permit when a company based in one EU country sells air tickets on the web under the contract law of one country but delivers the transport to/from another country ? Under what circumstances does the law of the country of departure override the law governing the commercial contract ?
I suspect that Aena and the Spanish Govt will start to do some serious arm twisting behind the scenes. If that works, then Ryanair may back down to some extent. If not, it'll go to an EU court and be dragged out over some time.
I suspect that Aena and the Spanish Govt will start to do some serious arm twisting behind the scenes. If that works, then Ryanair may back down to some extent. If not, it'll go to an EU court and be dragged out over some time.
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"Commission hungry Ryanair gate person" isn't exactly an accurate description - does anyone actually believe Ryanair offer commission?
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Having just returned from PMI with Ryanair, there were posters all over the airport stating that you could take a duty free bag on board as extra to your normal hand luggage. However on closer inspection there was a star at the end of it and at the bottom of the poster it stated that this was subject to the airline and to check with them first.
On another note, I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised by Ryanair. I had always been one of those people who insisted they would never fly with them. Now if the price was right, I would have no problem with them. Only observation - make sure you follow their rules and you will be fine.
On another note, I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised by Ryanair. I had always been one of those people who insisted they would never fly with them. Now if the price was right, I would have no problem with them. Only observation - make sure you follow their rules and you will be fine.
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"make sure you follow their rules and you will be fine"
But no wouldhave.
You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else. - Albert Einstein.
But no wouldhave.
You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else. - Albert Einstein.
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Some news from Bulgaria now:
Irish low-cost company Ryanair plans to open flights from Spain to Plovdiv in Bulgaria in the autumn this year at the latest.
"Even though the company recently dropped plans for a line from the Bulgarian city of Plovdiv to Barcelona, Spain, a service between the two countries will be launched as early as this year," Doychin Anguelov, executive director of Plovdiv Airport, told business news provider Investor.bg.
"Tickets for the flights were on sale since December 2010 and demand was brisk," he said, attributing the great interest to the big communities of Bulgarian immigrants in Spain, which totals 300,000.
The reason for the preliminary annulments of the new line was the termination of the five-year contract between Ryanair and the Barcelona Girona Airport.
"Even though the company recently dropped plans for a line from the Bulgarian city of Plovdiv to Barcelona, Spain, a service between the two countries will be launched as early as this year," Doychin Anguelov, executive director of Plovdiv Airport, told business news provider Investor.bg.
"Tickets for the flights were on sale since December 2010 and demand was brisk," he said, attributing the great interest to the big communities of Bulgarian immigrants in Spain, which totals 300,000.
The reason for the preliminary annulments of the new line was the termination of the five-year contract between Ryanair and the Barcelona Girona Airport.
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Having just returned from PMI with Ryanair, there were posters all over the airport stating that you could take a duty free bag on board as extra to your normal hand luggage. However on closer inspection there was a star at the end of it and at the bottom of the poster it stated that this was subject to the airline and to check with them first.
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Well thanks for the info everyone
I fly back on the 14th May so will look out for posters in the duty free shop and Departure areas and will report when back, I may even just try and test the sysem with a duty free bag containing my flip flops that I could just slide into my bag after the " sorry only one bag allowed sir "
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I fly back on the 14th May so will look out for posters in the duty free shop and Departure areas and will report when back, I may even just try and test the sysem with a duty free bag containing my flip flops that I could just slide into my bag after the " sorry only one bag allowed sir "
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AGP. My wife had a cabin bag with tiny wheels. Used it for years on many airlines including RYR. At the gate one slip of a girl suggested it would not fit in the template. There wasn't one there, but she decided it was too big and wanted 30euros for the hold. My wife had a plastic carrier bag inside and emptied the wheely bag and stuffed, just, everything into a plastic bag. Left said wheely bag behind, which was worth less than 30euros. Shameful behaviour. And then the snacks bar was almost empty on board. Not the most pleasant experience.
FCO easyjet. After check-in, and before going to the gate, there was a handling agent with a hand baggage frame. If in doubt she checked it and handed out ez OK stickers. At the boarding gate there was another frame and if any doubt the case had to be tried. It took forever to board. People were in panic and nervously swapping stuff between bags, even with strangers. Dunkirk spirit had come to Italy. One Italian lad had a bag where the fixed wheels were 2cm too big to fit. He huffed and he puffed and he broke them off with his foot. Then it fitted. All the pax were horrified at this gestapo ad-herance to petty rules, in Italy of all places.
Air Rage starts on the ground.
Which reminds me; there is an ICAO measurement for hand baggage. Why does RYR, Wizzair and perhaps others have a smaller size on the same type a/c? I've heard it where a pax went one way with ez (ICAO size) and came back with BMI baby (or Jet 2?) which has 5cm smaller in one dimension. Not allowed and they were relieved of 25GBP to put it in the hold. I sometimes fly with a national carrier who shows common sense. 2 pieces in the cabin e.g a cabinbag + laptop/duty free/handbag/umbrella/overcoat/camera + 23kgs hold luggage with a sympathetic tolerance to 2kgs over. Scale error. If you take the real bottom line of their ticket price for a weeks trip with luggage, and the extra leg room, and the free bar, and the free option to catch an earlier flight back (same day as original), and the smile and friendly attitude they are often way cheaper than the so-called LoCo's. And you arrive less stressed. Rules are rules, I know, but come-on.........
FCO easyjet. After check-in, and before going to the gate, there was a handling agent with a hand baggage frame. If in doubt she checked it and handed out ez OK stickers. At the boarding gate there was another frame and if any doubt the case had to be tried. It took forever to board. People were in panic and nervously swapping stuff between bags, even with strangers. Dunkirk spirit had come to Italy. One Italian lad had a bag where the fixed wheels were 2cm too big to fit. He huffed and he puffed and he broke them off with his foot. Then it fitted. All the pax were horrified at this gestapo ad-herance to petty rules, in Italy of all places.
Air Rage starts on the ground.
Which reminds me; there is an ICAO measurement for hand baggage. Why does RYR, Wizzair and perhaps others have a smaller size on the same type a/c? I've heard it where a pax went one way with ez (ICAO size) and came back with BMI baby (or Jet 2?) which has 5cm smaller in one dimension. Not allowed and they were relieved of 25GBP to put it in the hold. I sometimes fly with a national carrier who shows common sense. 2 pieces in the cabin e.g a cabinbag + laptop/duty free/handbag/umbrella/overcoat/camera + 23kgs hold luggage with a sympathetic tolerance to 2kgs over. Scale error. If you take the real bottom line of their ticket price for a weeks trip with luggage, and the extra leg room, and the free bar, and the free option to catch an earlier flight back (same day as original), and the smile and friendly attitude they are often way cheaper than the so-called LoCo's. And you arrive less stressed. Rules are rules, I know, but come-on.........
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without wishing to deviate OT. Easyjet carrier regulations do state in section 10:
Carrier's Regulations | easyJet.com
whereas Ryanair:
General Conditions
So any notice in the airport about duty free carrier bags being allowed would appear to be in contravention of the ryanair terms and conditions
Carrier's Regulations | easyJet.com
In addition to the “Standard Hand Baggage” you may also carry:
(a) one of the following: An overcoat; an umbrella, or a shawl; and
(b) one standard size carrier bag of goods purchased from the departure airport.
(a) one of the following: An overcoat; an umbrella, or a shawl; and
(b) one standard size carrier bag of goods purchased from the departure airport.
General Conditions
Strictly one item of cabin baggage per passenger (excluding infants) weighing up to 10kg with maximum dimensions of 55cm x 40cm x 20cm is permitted. (handbag, briefcase, laptop, shop purchases, camera etc.) must be carried in your 1 permitted piece of cabin baggage.
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Cannot confirm 100% but I suspect that Ryanair's frames currently used for checking the hand-baggage size are actually about 55x40x19.5. Which can be of great significance to a passenger asked to fit his bag in. Anyone could confirm that?
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Don't know about the dimensions but I did hear a recent story of someone flying back with FR from the continent (possibly Italy) who was allegedly challenged on his 10kg allowance with the claim that it was more than a kilo overweight. Whereupon he placed a 500g bag of sugar on the scales to see that it was coming up as 1.5kg and was hurriedly hushed up and put on the plane. This sounds a bit apocryphal but I was assured that he really did have that bag of sugar with him. (These things can happen. I just came back from Tuscany with bags of chestnut flour!). This is not a jibe at FR by the way as I presume it was local staff. Having said that, are local companies incentivised by airlines to catch people out?
On the subject of Italy and hand luggage I have noticed that they seem to be particularly sharp on allowances there, especially at Treviso in my experience. But, I also noticed that Italian passengers do seem to want to carry more hand luggage than anyone else.
On the subject of Italy and hand luggage I have noticed that they seem to be particularly sharp on allowances there, especially at Treviso in my experience. But, I also noticed that Italian passengers do seem to want to carry more hand luggage than anyone else.
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go to the unmanned check in desks and weigh your bag. last time i tried this there were 3 desks next to each other. weighed my bag and got 3 different answers. if airlines are going to be strict then they need to be fair in enforcement.
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From my days in retail there were heavy fines for weighing machines being out of balance. Presumably people just get awat with it theses days?
We had a strict (and dull) monitering regime where every scale in the rather large supermarket was checked once a week. I know I had to do it one weekend..
We had a strict (and dull) monitering regime where every scale in the rather large supermarket was checked once a week. I know I had to do it one weekend..
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Ryanair To Trial Reserved Seating
Only on Dublin - London-Gatwick and Dublin - Malaga from 16 May.
Cost €10 and includes priority boarding - First 2 rows can be reserved for a quick exit or over wing rows 16/17 with extra leg room.
Passengers who have priority boarding will not be allowed on before the passengers who reserve seats.
Only on Dublin - London-Gatwick and Dublin - Malaga from 16 May.
Cost €10 and includes priority boarding - First 2 rows can be reserved for a quick exit or over wing rows 16/17 with extra leg room.
Passengers who have priority boarding will not be allowed on before the passengers who reserve seats.
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Very good idea money wise... the only problem and I guess the reason why they are going to trial it is - ON TIME DEPARTURE ...
One of the reasons why Ryanair have such a good record for on-time flights is the fact that all the passengers are at the gate ready to board long before the flight has even landed. I think even if you just sold exit rows for £10 the people who will buy them will just spend more time in the cafe and shops to avoid the scrum, I guess thats why they are adding priority boarding but if it was me i would still rather turn up at the gate after the scrum and take my seat...
Why not just go the whole hog and have a Ryanair first class maybe named "Golden Harp" seating 2-2 stick a gold head rest cover on the first 5-10 rows free 2pc 30kg hold baggage free drinks/snacks and paper maybe even a portable IFE unit and charge an extra £100 on ticket price, if the seats arnt all taken the people who have payed for prioraty boarding only could get a free upgrade at the gate this may make more people buy prioraty boarding on the off chance they my get a free upgrade...
This will also attract more busines travelers...
One of the reasons why Ryanair have such a good record for on-time flights is the fact that all the passengers are at the gate ready to board long before the flight has even landed. I think even if you just sold exit rows for £10 the people who will buy them will just spend more time in the cafe and shops to avoid the scrum, I guess thats why they are adding priority boarding but if it was me i would still rather turn up at the gate after the scrum and take my seat...
Why not just go the whole hog and have a Ryanair first class maybe named "Golden Harp" seating 2-2 stick a gold head rest cover on the first 5-10 rows free 2pc 30kg hold baggage free drinks/snacks and paper maybe even a portable IFE unit and charge an extra £100 on ticket price, if the seats arnt all taken the people who have payed for prioraty boarding only could get a free upgrade at the gate this may make more people buy prioraty boarding on the off chance they my get a free upgrade...
This will also attract more busines travelers...
I think even if you just sold exit rows for £10 the people who will buy them will just spend more time in the cafe and shops to avoid the scrum, I guess thats why they are adding priority boarding but if it was me i would still rather turn up at the gate after the scrum and take my seat...