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Old 20th Feb 2012, 17:44
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Think it could come under use of Brand name without consent or permission and use of Intellectual property without consent.

Given Ryanair's success in quite a few countries I bet the lawyers have done their homework.
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 17:48
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Ryanair is a large company with plenty of spare cash and access to numerous lawyers. It also has a reputation for appealing any judgement it doesn't like as far as it possibly can. A small company without deep pockets of cash might think very carefully before wishing to engage in a potentially very costly and lengthy battle through the courts.

That which is right and fair does not always triumph when the 2 parties have unequal acces to the legal system
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 18:05
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Cuts to services at Edinburgh to be announced tomorrow due to a dispute with BAA over costs
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 18:11
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The schedule is already down to 6 for next summer was 7 in 2011 so will FR's PR maching go into over dirve on this or will there be more on top. Its a very recent problem as they only added 4 or 5 routes recently.
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 18:57
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Is Zadar back on for DUB during the summer?
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 19:01
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Originally Posted by Carnethy
Cuts to services at Edinburgh to be announced tomorrow due to a dispute with BAA over costs
Surprise, surprise! BAA is counting down the months until it offloads EDI and suddenly the nice rosy relationship with FR hits the bottom of a ravine.

I could be cynical and suggest that would suit BAA in Scotland right down to the ground. But it would be a risky game to play during a period in which they are looking for substantial bids from interested parties, to suddenly see the airport's relationship with a key client take a dramatic dive. Could be worth a peg or two off the asking price to a canny buyer, if passenger numbers take a sudden dive. But there would be nothing to stop them (the new operators at EDI, whoever they will be) trying afresh with FR again, so maybe FR knows exactly what it's doing. Let's see what tomorrow brings.
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 19:46
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The schedule is already down to 6 for next summer was 7 in 2011 so will FR's PR maching go into over dirve on this or will there be more on top. Its a very recent problem as they only added 4 or 5 routes recently.
Actually still needs 7 aircraft so some cuts required to reduce to 6.

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Old 20th Feb 2012, 20:12
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Well going from the past, when MOL travels to an airport to announce cuts it tends to be around 20% cuts.
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 20:33
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Originally Posted by Noxegon
Interesting press release....

Ryanair Sues Budget Travel to Stop Unauthorised Selling of?
I suspect the B team wrote the press release and couldn't quite get the spell checker working (e.g. "Budget Travel is scrapping and reselling Ryanair seats"). I had to smile in particular at
Failing to provide consumer’s with proper breakdown of the fight price
What with captcha, lots of opt-out boxes to tick, having to refuse insurance a couple of times, etc., "fight price" seems like an apt description of the booking process!
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 21:36
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Failing to provide consumer’s with proper breakdown of the fight price;
And the small question of rogue apostrophe's.

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Old 20th Feb 2012, 23:11
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RE: Edinburgh cuts due to price disagreements.

I'm not fully convinced this is the case. I'm more inclined to say that it's the Ryanair PR machine blaming someone else yet again. Real reasons behind the cuts could be lack stand availability for night stopping aircraft during the peak summer season. Also, Servisair are more often than not running short on staff in the terminal and on the ramp.

Another reason I'd say is that FR simply havent got enough pilots, cabin crew or aircraft to deploy to Edinburgh, when there are 5 new bases opening March/April and deliveries slowing and other airports like STN/CRL/MAD up to full summer capacity.

From looking at the timetable, it seems that there are fewer flights to PMI/ALC/AGP, which were all running at 7-8 p/w last season. Could this simply be a tactic by FR to increase ticket fares by giving the passengers less choice?
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 09:47
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I doubt it's lack of pilots or cabin crew, more a high stakes game that MOL is playing with BAA in the run up to sell off at EDI. If BAA are to get less cash from the sale as a result of FR threats to cut services the FR logic is that they might as well give FR the cash in reduced fees not to cut services?
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 10:15
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EDI - 15% reduction

7 down to 6 based a/c
5 routes cancelled (Malmo, Murcia, Ibiza and Tallinn)
140 down to 110 weekly flights
300,000 passenger per year.

There current contract is finished in October 2012 and Ryanair said if it is not extended on more competitive terms there will be significant further cuts.

Ryanair Cuts Edinburgh Traffic by 15% From Summer 2012
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 13:52
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EDI "Thinking outside the box"

Alex Salmond and the Skottish Parliament to vote 15m sterling (not "Scots"; perish the thought !) to be used for pump priming of new routes in accordance with Brussels's hyper tough regulations.

Everyone then happy:

i) Scottish travelling public as it can now travel to Spitzbergen in mid-summer for a handful of bawbees (plus a supplement for paying the pilot, another for paying the cleaner, another for paying the tug, another for paying the window cleaner, another for paying the snow clearer in EDI, another for....)

ii) Alex Salmond (the second greatest politician in living memory, only eclipsed by Nelson Mandela; or so says Rupert Murdoch today in the soar away Sun) can rest easy on his laurels as a member of the European Premier League of airline subsidisers. Eat your heart out Artur Mas i Gavarró

iii) MOL as he counts his hard earned bonus

iv) The bureaucrats of Brussels as they know that the use of a Ryanair plane as a flying taxi by the Transport Commissioner in an outrageously brazen illegal intromission in the decisions of the electorate of Ireland in their most recent referendum has not been noticed by anyone of any judicial importance

Not a single fly in the lego-political-subsidy-rich ointment.

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Old 21st Feb 2012, 14:06
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Tomorrow's Sun EXCLUSIVE

MOL has threatened to walk away from EDI in autumn 2012 unless they guarantee 20m sterling. In cash. To be paid before the end of February.

"We're sick and tired of gombeen airports and their gombeen governments which treat Ryanair executives like a cross between cattle and human scum" he intoned to a packed press conference full of credulous hacks as he playfully stuffed a pair of bagpipes in the orifice of the Skottish First Minister in Edinburgh on Tuesday.
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 16:11
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Malmo, Murcia and Ibiza havent even been flown yet, and Tallin is seasonal anyway (only summer) so the 300,000 fewer passengers isnt really true - it is only FR's estimate of what numbers might have been. So not really cutting anything, or only very little.
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 19:26
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News about FR and CGN?

Following a german newspaper a press conference will be held tomorrow in CGN. Does anyone know something if FR will start flying from CGN? If so - which routes?
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 19:51
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Following a german newspaper a press conference will be held tomorrow in CGN. Does anyone know something if FR will start flying from CGN? If so - which routes?
It would suggest so

Guess is a few sunshine routes in Spain / Cyprus.....
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 20:42
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As instead of MOL Ryanair's country manager will be showing up, I do not think we will see a major announcement, i.e. a base. A few routes from other bases, I guess. For a base, FR would have to hurt both HHN (100mls) and NRN (80mls).
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Old 22nd Feb 2012, 08:46
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CGN

A few routes from other bases, I guess. For a base, FR would have to hurt both HHN (100mls) and NRN (80mls)
As one of the richest and most populated regions in Europe there's room for 3 Ryanair bases there...
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