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Old 9th Feb 2012, 18:25
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“Excuse my Hungarian press release: we are a low-cost airline, and we use low-cost translators,” said Michael O’Leary.

O’Leary’s Hungarian press release did not impress the locals, who were clearly hoping his airline service will be of a higher standard.
“It’s not even child-like writing. It’s just bad. It looks like he’s used Google Translate, and not even bothered to get it checked,” said one native Hungarian speaker.

Quoted after Financial Times

I thought MOL wouldn't like to associate "low cost" with "low quality"?
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Old 9th Feb 2012, 19:33
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Surely selling tickets for routes that you are not technically operating, or have in place an agreement to operate is leaving themselves open to hungry lawyers?
Is it not standard practice for any large outdoor show (and even some indoor ones it seems) to include the phrase 'subject to licence'. Now considering the trading that goes on in sold out concert tickets, and considering that it only takes one person (ie lead singer) to fall in and the whole thing has to be moved - and no consequential losses are covered.

So if Ryanair cancel a flight before check-in, is their liability not always solely for the amount paid, and no more?
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Old 9th Feb 2012, 20:42
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Originally Posted by jabird
So if Ryanair cancel a flight before check-in, is their liability not always solely for the amount paid, and no more?
You'll see from the attached PDF (from ryanair.com, no less!) that the EU261 compensation provisions kick in at 2 weeks before departure. So if they cancel on you 3 weeks before your flight, you get your money back; if it's 13 days (or 1 hour) then there is scope for compensation to be payable.
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Old 9th Feb 2012, 21:08
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Cyrano - thanks, I was being lazy!
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I know a 3 people who applyed for FR cabin crew and they want to be based DUB but the UK would do. DUB, STN, EMA are there top 3 bases but a lot of people saying thats its realy hard to get into DUB base and they were told that they should stick with 3 UK bases or ORK/SNN instead of DUB to have a better chance of being based in Ireland or UK. Should they change there top 3 bases?
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Old 11th Feb 2012, 22:59
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change airline
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 08:44
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Well if the cabin crew basing policy is the same as the pilot's, they can expect to be sent to the back arse of Italy or Spain somewhere
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 09:30
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EMA is way far too over crewed in the winter months, with 2/3 months forced unpaid leave. I would pick, DUB, LPL, STN. If you dont ask you wont get, LPL & STN both have a few flights a day back home to Ireland. Agency crew for ryanair, no thanks, take years to get a ryanair contract now days. Try other airlines, like many of the current are doing.

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Old 13th Feb 2012, 13:21
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A recent survay conducted by CAI on the cost of flights for a family hoilday from Ireland during the summer months showed Ryanair are not the low fares airline when all taxes and baggage fees are included. Aer Lingus are up to €40 cheeper on key routes that are also operated by Ryanair. It also said that Ryanair are cheeper other times of the year but for familys its more expensive in summer.

A spokesperson for Ryanair insisted that Ryanair offered the lowest fares and said it was unfair to incliude the cost of baggage for family hoildays as they don't want passenger baggage.
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Old 13th Feb 2012, 15:17
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"Unfair" price comparisons and public misperception

"A spokesperson for Ryanair insisted that Ryanair offered the lowest fares and said it was unfair to include the cost of baggage for family holidays..."

One wonders whether this spokesperson might be related to the one who was reported as having told the Donegal correspondent of the Financial Times that "mentioning charges for our flights is intrinsically unfair as we far prefer the paying..., oops sorry I meant the punters to continue to believe that we let them travel for free in the high season and we pay them to come on board in the low season."

Well I seem to remember the journalist worked for the Financial Times but maybe it was the Donegal correspondent of Die Welt. Or The Wall Street Journal ?
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Old 13th Feb 2012, 17:54
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Tell you what: buy a business class ticket on BA and then pay £60 to choose your seat.

My heart bleeds for those who pay £3 or £4 for a reserved seat.
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Old 13th Feb 2012, 20:19
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If you didn't notice, Ryanair is keen to advertise its competitors. Where? On its own website, look no further. Norwegian Radio wonders does it pay to win a penny for another airline's banner click at risk of losing a potential customer to them.

Source: NRK, Norway
Actually, I've been wondering the same for months. But if the website's owner does not care, why should we care?
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Old 13th Feb 2012, 22:25
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Google controls the banners not the airlines hence either allow them or ban them completely.
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Old 13th Feb 2012, 22:31
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Maybe you haven't used Google Adwords before? It is very easy to ban websites or topical subjects or keywords. Maybe Ryanair needs to invest a few hours of staff time to add those filters....
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Old 13th Feb 2012, 22:53
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Why bother ?
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Old 13th Feb 2012, 23:42
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"Why bother'"

Is that to be the company's new advertising slogan ?
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Old 14th Feb 2012, 03:26
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New website look on the 16th
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Old 14th Feb 2012, 03:57
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Maybe Ryanair needs to invest a few hours of staff time to add those filters...
Old news. FR have been running Google ads for years, but perhaps not in such a blatant position.

MOL has commented on this before "sure, so we make a bit of money by sending traffic to high fare airlines, so people can do their price comparison and then come straight back to us"

Maybe in the light of Ryanair's more recent uppage of yields they may actually lose a bit of business this way (at least DY have no card charges) - but one thing could can be assured is that MOL / FR's web team know exactly what is going on, revenue raised is matched against potential loss of business, and they will adjust accordingly.

After all, we know that Ryanair's web team would never do anything stupid like lock people out with annoying CAPTCHAS now would they
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Old 14th Feb 2012, 04:17
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does it pay to win a penny for another airline's banner
Having spent and earnt money through Google, let me tell you it is much more than one penny.

Chances are, as Ryanair's content is highly relevant, an out click from the home page will cost anything upto €1. Norwegian would then have to gain more than Ryanair would lose - and Ryanair's usual bluster about being cheapest would mean they'd expect to win, let's say 3 in 4 pax on any head to head route. Yet Grenoble, advertised in Norwegian isn't head to head anyway - or was the surfer in question in Norway at the time?

Google is going to take about 1/3 of the revenue, and Ryanair will get the rest (afaik, 30% is typical, Ryanair will get a bit more) - so as long as Ryanair's "loss" of business is less than Norwegian's "gain" + the Google margin, Ryanair are still quids in.

Except - and here's the clincher? Did I hear you say Norwegian radio were wondering about this? Now would this be a commercial station, or the NRK, from whom such publicity cannot be bought? Repeat such a conversation across dining tables and in forums like these.

I'd say FR's webmasters know exactly who they can ban, but are quite happy to let it run. After all in the UK now, I get adverts for Eurotunnel - are they not an indirect competitor too?
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Old 14th Feb 2012, 08:29
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TRANSAVIA was on the website as well
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