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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 12:46
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MOL has always been an opportunist. But I have to admit, that's done in great style. Fortunately for him it happened just now when so many aircraft are free to be utilised right away.
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Ryanair currently employ over 700 Hungarian pilots and cabin crew. There will be a recruitment day in Budapest on 7 February, inviting job applications from Malev pilots, cabin crew and engineers to help Ryanair to gear up for this new base at Budapest Airport.

This investment – the largest ever in Hungarian aviation and tourism – is subject to reaching final agreement on costs, facilities and handling with Budapest Airport today.

Michael Cawley, Ryanair’s Deputy CEO, has travelled to Budapest to finalise these negociations with Budapest Airport and the Hungarian Government.

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Interesting. It's still subject to reaching final agreement. What if not signed?
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 14:34
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Originally Posted by pee
Interesting. It's still subject to reaching final agreement. What if not signed?
Michael Cawley, Ryanair’s Deputy CEO, has travelled to Budapest to finalise these negociations with Budapest Airport and the Hungarian Government.
"How are ye, Viktor? Thanks for seeing me today. Sad business, this Malév thing, isn't it?

Right, down to business. Listen, I'll make this simple. Here's the deal we want to operate out of Budapest. Either you sign on the dotted line here or I go out there and tell the press that we're cancelling the recruitment day next week because your Government are not interested in saving any jobs. Which will it be, Viktor?

No, that's fine, take your time, have a think about it, I'll wait... Oh, by the way, what's this I was reading in the paper this morning about your government's approval rating? Sorry to hear that, mate, it's terrible when people don't like you, or so I hear anyway...

Anyway, as I say, take your time, have a think... what's that? You've made your mind up? Good man! Sign here... and here. Pleasure doing business with you! Szia!"
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 15:22
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Modlin will open in July (W6 starts flights from 18th July).
FR will start BUD-Modlin in July, too. I think we can expect more FR flights out of Modlin in July. Adria is also in financial troubles. LJU could be the next base for FR (1 or 2 based a/c).

More flights/destinations/aircrafts for BCN, GRO or REU due to the Spanair collapse? Many airlines (LH, SN, AB, FR, W6) announced new flights to BUD but last week just Vueling announced new flights from BCN (FR and EZY just 1 or 2 new routes).
Confusing cause Spanair (Spain) was much bigger (important) than Malev (Hungary).
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 16:16
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Big blow to Wizzair?
Wizzair are also adding 2 aircraft to Budapest (from March).
Bloodbath! "Flag carriers" also announcing increases at Budapest. For example Brussels Airlines will go from 2 daily to 3 daily on BRU-BUD, and with bigger aircraft, and already within the next 2 weeks like Ryanair.

Wizz Air
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 16:22
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Modlin will open in July (W6 starts flights from 18th July).
FR will start BUD-Modlin in July, too. I think we can expect more FR flights out of Modlin in July. Adria is also in financial troubles. LJU could be the next base for FR (1 or 2 based a/c).
Still not showing up on Ryanair website and Modlin airport are not announcing anything about such flight although Krakow have confirmed they will get the Budapest flight.

With Wizzair being based in Hungary and Budapest in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they have thrown a spanner in the works for that route, Chopin Airport (WAW) has now been added to the Ryanair Route map and the destinations list and even shows a route between Budapest and there.

Hope that is not the case though as if one airline is calling the shots at Modlin it's bad for everyone.
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 16:40
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FR14P left Budapest at around 17:30 - I would assume that is the flight that the Deputy CEO was on, and it was a special charter?

Still no official confirmation that a deal has been reached so I assume that it was not?
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 18:15
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Ryanair to Open Budapest Base in Two Weeks With 31 New Routes, 2M?
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 18:17
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Ryanair's January Traffic Down 6%

Traffic down 6% v 2011.
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 18:25
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Many of those routes are from existing bases. I wonder will the aircraft actually be in place by that date or will they all launch as W routes through Budapest?

Clearly they were planning and expecting Malevs demise for a long time and had the ultimate leverage when Budapest lost nearly 40% of their regular traffic.
I think any business has to spend time looking at the competition and at opportunities that may come along no matter how far fetched.

The sad demise of Malev became pretty certain when the EU indicated that all state aid was to be returned, it comes down to who is willing and prepared to move the quickest, if and when the time came.

Its quite probable that FR and others had already plans drawn up for eventualities like this, that is what a business will do.

In recent weeks the companies trading with Malev became more and more unwilling to offer credit, knowing full well they may never get paid for existing debts. When things like this happen it becomes well known pretty quickly as suppliers talk.
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 19:28
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Still no confirmation on if these routes will actually run?
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 19:43
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Still no confirmation on if these routes will actually run?
Publicly announced on Website which means also announced to stock exchange, deal done its just some of the finer details need ironing out.

FR can bring to BUD quickly a number of aircraft which others not able to which will be what airport and Govt will want.
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 21:09
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New Routes

Palemo to MAD (4 April) and DUB (5 April)
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Old 4th Feb 2012, 16:44
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MDI (Warsaw Modlin)

Following the recent announcement of BUD - MDI route, PAP Press Agency has asked today Modlin Airport spokesperson whether Ryanair's arrival to Modlin has already been confirmed.

The answer: "They can start flying to Modlin, it's possible. Nevertheless, we do not have any individual agreement with Ryanair. For the time being, the commencement of such a route would mean Ryanair's acceptance of our terms."

I wouldn't bet on this to happen.
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Old 5th Feb 2012, 09:30
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Ryanair pilots fed up

Looks like some Ryanair pilots are fed up with the constant humilation by the management: Google Translate

The translation is not perfect. Supposedly this was on the TV news in Sweden as well, but I have not been able to see that.
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Old 5th Feb 2012, 09:49
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"Ryanair pilots fed up". . . . . . .

I doubt if that is either a "rumour" or "news"
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Old 5th Feb 2012, 09:58
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Do people know how really fed up we SLF feel about Ryanair. I flew them once from Prestwick to Stansted a long time ago, I swore never again and have been true to my word.
Cheap as chips,horrible service on a par with Easyjet. You get what you pay for. I voted with my feet am not sure why others don,t.
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Old 5th Feb 2012, 10:17
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Cpt PS: True, I guess the news part is that fact that the pilots are starting to do something about the poor and dangerous conditions. Would probably not have happened without the increasing support by IALPA, BALPA and ECA.
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Old 5th Feb 2012, 10:52
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Can sure see why they may be fed up, but as for voting with my feet...........
Well, I have flown with them a number of times now, and i gotta say, dam nice flights, great landings as well. The company may be dubious, but the crews are pretty dam good.
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Old 5th Feb 2012, 10:55
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Amazing how the landing is a benchmark for everything that makes any flight safe and comfortable in the eyes of the public!!

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