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Old 31st Jan 2012, 15:20
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The flights from EDI to Berlin disappearing in May have found their new destination. It's Szczecin in Poland, not so far away. However only Tue and Sat flights arrive in SZZ. Thu flights' destination still unaccounted for
There was already room in the schedule on a Tuesday and Saturday pm for Szzzecin, as only the Tue and Thu flight were operated by EDI based aircraft. The Saturday flight was a non based aircraft

There are quite a few gaps where additional flights could be added, possibly 3 new routes per week

Tue/Thu - to replace SXF
Tue/Thu/Sun
Thu/Sun

There is also enough room to add another Canary Island flight on a Wednesday morning
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 15:36
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NEW ROUTES

Edinburgh to Malmö
Edinburgh to Murcia
Bologna to Poznan
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 15:40
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I do not claim the sky is falling in but point to the end of the good times for ryanair. For a firm with so much cash any fall will be very slow but like any giant the fall will come. The start is the firm going ex-growth.
Ex Growth making half a billion a year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Distributing a couple of hundred million a year to shareholder in next 2 years.

Humourous post of the year.


The price of jet fuel means the 99p offers have gone. Also Boeing will not now sell FR planes so far below cost that they can be sold 2nd hand at a profit.

Also for pax cash is tight and weekend breaks are the first thing to go.

Ryanair are still going to be here in 4 years time - it is just they are going to be in decline.
99p had nothing to do with the cost of jet fuel.

99p fares were about creating demand on routes and gaining maximum publicity for little outlay.

Your mantra of decline has been shown to be laughable every quarter.

Boeing never sold aircraft at a loss, they been in business long enough not to need to and the suggestion that they will never cut prices for a big order is laughable as they do it every month.
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 15:44
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\if you google the Panorama report on Ryanair you will see a dismissive comment from the boss of Airbus, John Leahy where he gives his thoughts on dealings with Ryanair. Clearly they dont take negotiations too seriously believeing in my opinion that talks are just to get the Boeing price down. Boeing as widely reported believe MOL got a never to be repeated deal and it is alleged he stated he had raped Boeing over the deal to buy 737's so I think they will take a tougher line.
Stop confusing rhetoric to a crap 2009 program with business reality.....

Airbus will do a deal with anybody to beat Boeing.


Like any good negotiator and he is without doubt in a class of his own he will seek to create competition in the form of new entrants. Now it could be argued if you are a launch customer you will get a great deal but on a new aircraft with a manufacturer having to establish the support functions necessary in the timescale available i think not. Likewise who would take the aircraft after Ryanair and what will happen to their values.

It will suit MOL not to expand in the current marketplace and look to drop low yielding routes but in time he will need new aircraft.... Going to be fun watching this one run.

I reckon he will do a deal with Boeing on a new design 797 stating We will be the first operator of a new Boeing aircraft bla bla bla
Stop confusing Ryanair with Michael O'Leary as they are different.
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 16:22
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Ryanair may cut further capacity here as profits rise - The Irish Times - Tue, Jan 31, 2012
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 16:36
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'For a firm with so much cash'

Just how did they manage THAT then ?

Are you the Ryanair Troll in waiting ?
I think we should be told !!

MM
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 18:16
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'Edinburgh to Malmö CCFAIRPORT WROTE
Edinburgh to Murcia
Bologna to Poznan'

This is a rumour network right?

http://www.simplynetworking.es/news_fur ... &top_id=31

Well MOL has fallen out with Alicante and Murcia Corvera is likely to be a White Elephant so maybe he may have done a deal at MJV
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 21:02
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MOL cannot do a deal with MJV as it is being shut later this year, to be replaced by Corvera, which will be run by AENA [who, as you know, also run ALC]. In this part of SE Spain, MOL does not have much room to negotiate, as all the airports of note are run by AENA
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 21:42
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Some free advertising for Ryanair...

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Old 31st Jan 2012, 22:49
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In this part of SE Spain, MOL does not have much room to negotiate, as all the airports of note are run by AENA
wowzz, now this is a bit of a flawed theory, it would seem that each airport are quite autonomous, e.g. Girona and Barcelona El Prat. It did seem that FR playing 2 aena airports off against one another, true or not true?

Furthermore, what is the latest on FR at ALC for summer 2012? What level of reduction will actually transpire, it would seem that the base is super profitable in peak season (strong loads, good frequency and what would seem to be high fares), so despite challenges around using jetties etc, it would seem that ALC is a compelling case in terms of profit. If FR is significantly down on last year at ALC, the impact on passenger numbers will be interesting. Based on the performace of 2012 summer, it will be interesting to see exactly what level of 'room to negotiate that FR will have'.

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Old 1st Feb 2012, 12:37
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Fair point EI-BUD.
I seem to recollect that the latest passenger figures for ALC were quite robust, compared to the same period last year, despite a reduction in FR flights to the UK. The other loco operators to the UK seem to be picking up much of the spare capacity created by the withdrawal of some FR schedules.
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 13:09
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Modlin may not be a base for Ryanair now, they're still taking terms according to an article on anna.aero but it doesn't look too hopeful as the cost base is still far to high.

MOL it seems is still confident about running flights there and there will be something to announce soon, but it seems that it will just be flights from other bases apart from a base itself.
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 13:56
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Ryanair have added extra flights to PMI besided the new routes. DUB goes from 6 to 8 weekly, There is more others to.
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 15:50
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New route: Trapani-Leipzig from 11 May. Flights monday and friday!
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Old 2nd Feb 2012, 14:33
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NEW

Milan Bergamo to Perugia

RESTARTED

Oslo Rygge to La Rochelle
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 12:29
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New base in Budapest. Basic open next February 17. 4 a / c based and 31 new routes.
Spain: Alicante, Barcelona (El Prat), Malaga, Madrid and Palma.

Germany: Karlsruhe / Baden Baden, Lübeck, Memmingen.

UK: Bristol (previously announced), Birmingham (already announced), Manchester, Stansted (previously announced).

Italy: Bergamo, Treviso, Bologna (already announced), Pisa, Rome Ciampino and Trapani.

Sweden: Gothenburg / saeve, Nykoping / Skavsta.

France: Beauvais.

Poland: Krakow, Warsaw / Modlin.

Norway: Gardermoen / Moss.

Netherlands: Eindhoven.

Belgium: Charleroi.

Ireland: Dublin (previously announced).

Greece: Chania, Rhodes and Thessaloniki.

Cyprus: Paphos.
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 12:31
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Well indeed. What a swift reaction. Or a coincidence?
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 12:39
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So can I take it that FR are now the national carrier of Hungary?

They get a lot of stick, but I'm sure the Hungarian Government and Budapest Airport are very happy to have them step in so quickly. I bet they got a very nice deal indeed.
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 12:44
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Many of those routes are from existing bases. I wonder will the aircraft actually be in place by that date or will they all launch as W routes through Budapest?

Clearly they were planning and expecting Malevs demise for a long time and had the ultimate leverage when Budapest lost nearly 40% of their regular traffic.
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 12:45
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Big blow to Wizzair?

Also suggests that Modlin is going to be served by Ryanair after all, any ideas if it will be a base?
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