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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 09:44
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Ork-Dub being axed in October. Ryanair blaming the opening of the M8 motorway and the high charges at Dublin.
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Ork-Dub being axed in October. Ryanair blaming the opening of the M8 motorway and the high charges at Dublin.
Which is completely true whenever im on it theres less then 50 or maybe sometimes 40 people on the route.
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 12:28
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40 or 50 would be a 'good' day. I have seen low 20's fairly often and I have heard about single digit figures on some KIR-DUB flights
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 12:30
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Admire his ability Soberlark - ability to annoy just about everyone he has ever come into contact with. I will give MOL great for the amount of money he has put into National Hunt racing in the UK and Ireland but that's about it. If I ever had the opportunity to work with the man I think I would last about five minutes. If someone through a briefcase at me like MOL is alleged to have done to an executive at a meeting recently it would have been thrown straight back!
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 12:52
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Ryanair B777 ?

Anyone heard anything about Ryanair looking for 10x B777 .

Heard from someone at STN that Ryanair will split them between STN,FCO and MAD...

I cant see it myself and I dont see why FCO would be talked about.
Is this just another non rumour... I guess so.
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 13:02
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I would bet it's just another rumour. When I joined the company quite a few years ago they were talking about 777s being based at STN and DUB. Then it became STN and MAD and now it looks like FCO has been added to the rumour. Along with that during my time in the company we were supposed to have been getting 767's to operate the longer routes (over 4 hours), 777's to operate to New York (or to quote a Frankie Boyle joke "Ryanair are starting a new route to New York, only it's going to stop a little outside New York...........in Dublin!), 787's were a rumour at some point as well as a complete fleet switch to Airbus.
You never know though!! I doubt it.
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 13:27
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I agree, Someone wishing for some thing that I think is along way off.
What is bugging me though is the mention of FCO, If just a rumour why stick FCO into the mix Ryanair dont even use FCO, guess we will just have to wait and see. But I wont be holding my breath.
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 19:56
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How can anyone question O'Leary and the team at Ryanair's ability - bust to 300 new aircraft and over 70m bookings per year in around 20 years - Aer Lingus certainly cant match that.
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 20:04
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Yup you've got to admire MOL, parking 100 aircraft this winter! 777s! LOL
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frogone could be to do with Ryanair Atlantic?
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 20:33
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So frogone would you fly them then ?
As far as I see it is very good business to park them, What other Airline could afford to do the same ?
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Old 24th Aug 2011, 02:42
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Why bother looking for 777's???

From Wikipedia....

The 737-900ER, which was called the 737-900X prior to launch, is the newest addition and the largest variant of the Boeing 737 line and was introduced to meet the range and passenger capacity of the discontinued 757-200.

An additional pair of exit doors and a flat rear pressure bulkhead increase seating capacity to 180 passengers in a 2-class configuration or 215 passengers in a single-class layout.

If a 757 can cross the pond, why cant this aircraft?
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Old 24th Aug 2011, 12:51
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Etops certification?
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Old 24th Aug 2011, 13:19
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What is bugging me though is the mention of FCO, If just a rumour why stick FCO into the mix Ryanair dont even use FCO
Daz, a few years ago I remember (it was my Dad that actually found the article) there was an article about how Ryanair and Easyjet would have to relocate their CIA operations to FCO as the Italians wanted to close down CIA due to noise and various other things (I'm sorry I can't reproduce it). As I said this was quite a few years ago, I think I was still fairly new in the company at the time. I forgot all about it as nothing more was ever said or heard about but maybe it's that rumour just re-emerging? Having said that I do remember there being something in one of the aviation press about MOL saying that the business model will have to change in the future and FR would start to utilise more major airports. I believe it was discussed somewhere on these forums.
We shall see!! Not that I care, I don't work there anymore!!
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Old 24th Aug 2011, 15:24
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Even parking a large number of aircraft over the winter, Ryanair is still profitable, unlike many others.

Turning to crossing the Atlantic, Sun Country fly Minneapolis to Gatwick with a fuel stop in Gander in a B737/800 and Air Canada use an A319 non stop from Newfoundland to LHR. Whilst the B737/900 is used by United Continental on long routes, if it was meant to be a replacement for the B757, why have orders been so low?
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Old 24th Aug 2011, 15:30
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Ryanair need larger A/C than the 737-900 this is due to bums on seats the more passenger on one A/C the lower the fare, The lower the fare more bums on seats.
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Old 24th Aug 2011, 15:35
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Turning to crossing the Atlantic, Sun Country fly Minneapolis to Gatwick with a fuel stop in Gander in a B737/800 and Air Canada use an A319 non stop from Newfoundland to LHR. Whilst the B737/900 is used by United Continental on long routes, if it was meant to be a replacement for the B757, why have orders been so low?

Its because it doesnt do what it says on the tin. A B739 in all Ryanair 215Y configuration wouldnt stand a chance of getting across the Pond. They are good for around 5h - 5h30m with max charter capacity which FR would want to operate them in.

The 757 however is totally different...
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Old 24th Aug 2011, 16:47
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Ryanair need larger A/C than the 737-900 this is due to bums on seats the more passenger on one A/C the lower the fare, The lower the fare more bums on seats.
I beg to differ.

FR currently have 272 738's in the fleet, with another 40 on order. This is taking the original WN concept of sticking to the same type one step further. It means huge economies of scale. Adding to this fleet with 739's would be one thing - 76 or 777s a totally different ball game - hence most indications so far being that if the pond is going to be crossed, it will be done so using a different airline. I can still see plenty of picking from heading east with the same business model, rather than going west with something new and untested - but time will tell.
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Old 24th Aug 2011, 16:48
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SAB,

I'm lost - without going through every thread on the board, how were we going to guess your post was about ALC?
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Old 24th Aug 2011, 16:55
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Um... factoring in a bulk agreement with say Bangor or Gander for fuels stops, couldn't they have a stab at a wave of transatlantics daily to East Coast USA?
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