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I'm not a Ryanair fan but if you think their work practices are unfair, go work elsewhere - no one is forcing you to work for them.
If, as a passenger you think their Terms and Conditions are unfair, fly with someone else.
If, as a passenger you think their Terms and Conditions are unfair, fly with someone else.
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I neither work for them or fly with them, and if you dont like it go elsewhere is the principle ryanair work by. My objection is the fact people think everything should be dusted under the carpet just becuse they bring passenger volume into random places. Growth should not be at any cost, surely.
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I neither work for them or fly with them, and if you dont like it go elsewhere is the principle ryanair work by
Love them or hate them, many people do work for them and don't leave! Why?
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In any company good or bad you will get people who stay, whether thats because they are happy or because they just put up with things, but the issue at large is that their cabin crew get bulied out or their contracts terminated on the 11th month to make way for the next batch who pay out for everything, its a recruitment scam. How many people would know that before they enter training? Thats why people should protest, the public should be made aware.
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not being allowed proper rest periods or even to heat their own food up and when theres a delay not even water available for passengers
We can use the ovens and I dont know of any crew that do not use them, only thing that ryanair does bang on about is, to make sure we use oven bags to keep them clean and safe.
And I think you will find the crews can open the bars to sell soft drinks with a long delay.
About the union thing, we all now ryanair does not want them, but still we only need 50% plus 1. Any crew member can be in a union, more crew than you think are in a union, some bases more than others STN is a good example.
About the union thing, we all now ryanair does not want them, but still we only need 50% plus 1. Any crew member can be in a union, more crew than you think are in a union, some bases more than others STN is a good example.
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Do your job....work hard....get rewarded well...cabin crew genuinely know this. Mess about; have lates, no shows unexplained sick days contract will be terminated.
Yes recruitment is very much part of business, however maybe these young 18 year olds that dream of being a trolley dolley should do
some research into the company and it's procedures before applying and paying for training. If you want to hand out hot towels apply for BA. If you want to come to work and really work ie be part of a successful business focussed and safety, punctuality and sales then join Ryanair.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but my personal Ryanair career has been nothing but generally positive.
Yes recruitment is very much part of business, however maybe these young 18 year olds that dream of being a trolley dolley should do
some research into the company and it's procedures before applying and paying for training. If you want to hand out hot towels apply for BA. If you want to come to work and really work ie be part of a successful business focussed and safety, punctuality and sales then join Ryanair.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but my personal Ryanair career has been nothing but generally positive.
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Well said flyfr, I would love to go fly for BA but the wages for mixed fleet would mean me taking a pay cut. Ryanair has looked after me well so far, good staff travel, blue tickets aswell. I have crew moaning about being sacked, but then you ask why, oh I only had 3 sick days, a few lates no shows, bad grooming . . . . For those of us in the company, we all know some crew who have done really well and worked up the ladder fast.
I have just had several new crew come for sny flights, and i told them the same as what my trainner told me years ago, 'come in, do your job well, and do what your asked to do, and you wont have any problems'. I was lucky and after 6 months I was given a Ryanair contract.
Can I just add, about paying for the trainning, over a year you are given a new joiners bonus of £1000, which will go towards paying for it. Plus after a year your given £20 per month to the up keep on your uniform.
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I have just had several new crew come for sny flights, and i told them the same as what my trainner told me years ago, 'come in, do your job well, and do what your asked to do, and you wont have any problems'. I was lucky and after 6 months I was given a Ryanair contract.
Can I just add, about paying for the trainning, over a year you are given a new joiners bonus of £1000, which will go towards paying for it. Plus after a year your given £20 per month to the up keep on your uniform.
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Uniforms
FR I think what worries me about the uniform issue is that you must go away thinking Have I just paid the cost for the uniform or is there a Ryanair margin on top that I'm paying for? No doubt some would say any margin is part of the cost of sourcing handling and so on, but I think items such as these are just part of the cost of conducting business.
Having said all that I do understand that given the transient nature of cabin crew paying out hundreds of euros for uniforms for people who might not turn up next week.
MOL has not just thought the unthinkable but go on and done it, 20 years ago the work practices(some of them at least) would have been thought unworkable, whether we've gone forward in employment terms I will leave that judgement to others....
Having said all that I do understand that given the transient nature of cabin crew paying out hundreds of euros for uniforms for people who might not turn up next week.
MOL has not just thought the unthinkable but go on and done it, 20 years ago the work practices(some of them at least) would have been thought unworkable, whether we've gone forward in employment terms I will leave that judgement to others....
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But it doesn't change the fact that if you don't like the T&Cs then don't work for them!
Well racedo, as ryanair dont have the guts to allow any trade unions into the business do you not think people have a right to campaign against unfair working practices in another way?
Most people have mortgages and kids etc to take care of. In fact most of the population probably would love to quit their job's but can't due to financial commitments, so stop being so damned flippant!!!!
First its Ryanair pay so badly that staff are destitute............which means they couldn't get a mortgage in the 1st place to worry about, now its they can't quit their jobs because of their financial commitments.
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As Ryanair grows across Europe and the number of Brookfield contractors grows as does the number of Eastern European girls and boys buying their own uniforms etc. The consequence of this is that more and more businesses move closer to the Ryanair business model, which in laymens terms means poorer Ts & Cs for the staff.
On the upside I can fly to Byzodgowoffski for much less so I'm alright, for the moment..... In other news, Iberia are farming off the future of short haul to Iberia Expresss where the Ts and Cs will be worse, just as BA have to introduce mixed fleet after battering BASSA. They're all part of the same race to the bottom alas.
On the upside I can fly to Byzodgowoffski for much less so I'm alright, for the moment..... In other news, Iberia are farming off the future of short haul to Iberia Expresss where the Ts and Cs will be worse, just as BA have to introduce mixed fleet after battering BASSA. They're all part of the same race to the bottom alas.
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This type of thing happened in shipping with crew jobs being farmed out to overseas contractors and ships being re-flagged. However, the EU, whilst I don't like a fair percentage of its doings are very driven on employee rights and sooner or later I think they may very well start to tackle the matter. I've no wish to see LCC's stradled with national airline style strikes, but I think its essential their staff whether agency or directly employed are looked after and represented, otherwise they are wide open to exploitation. I also think if Ryanair and any other carrier are to carry on in such a manner they must expect groups like Ryanair Don't Care to make a noise and perhaps damage their image.
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Make your minds up
First its Ryanair pay so badly that staff are destitute............which means they couldn't get a mortgage in the 1st place to worry about, now its they can't quit their jobs because of their financial commitments.
First its Ryanair pay so badly that staff are destitute............which means they couldn't get a mortgage in the 1st place to worry about, now its they can't quit their jobs because of their financial commitments.
In any case replace the I retract the "mortgage" from my previous post and replace it with "car loan" as it is well documented FR pilots sleep in their cars in the Dublin Airport carpark
In any case replace the I retract the "mortgage" from my previous post and replace it with "car loan" as it is well documented FR pilots sleep in their cars in the Dublin Airport carpark
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FR flight from PFO?
On the Malta International Airport website, the schedule for the 10th January (available here Malta International Airport), shows a flight FR7301P from Paphos (PFO) to Malta, then 1h 40 mins later leaving as FR7302P to BCN.
Neither of these airports are linked by FR to MLA, and PFO is not even an FR destination (yet??). Rumors about a deal with PFO have been around for several months. Is this a plane carrying some FR executive making some announcement in PFO/MLA?
Thanks.
Neither of these airports are linked by FR to MLA, and PFO is not even an FR destination (yet??). Rumors about a deal with PFO have been around for several months. Is this a plane carrying some FR executive making some announcement in PFO/MLA?
Thanks.
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Might be... I heard about the rumour as well 
However, it can also be an chartered flight. That some company chartered an Ryanair-aircraft which is operating with an FR-flightnr. Guess we just have to wait and see!
However, it can also be an chartered flight. That some company chartered an Ryanair-aircraft which is operating with an FR-flightnr. Guess we just have to wait and see!
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PFO is top on the list to become a base...however FR just waiting for a few things to be put in place by the airport in order to sustain the operation.
Could be MOL on the rounds announcing new routes/bases etc for the upcoming summer season.
Could be MOL on the rounds announcing new routes/bases etc for the upcoming summer season.