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Old 15th Jan 2012, 15:42
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Only a few months ago the rumours of a change to B737NG was doing the rounds and when the "big annoucement" happened the question was asked about it.
Plus the engineers where being trained on the B737NG but this doesn't indicate they are getting it just indicates that MAEL will maintain that fleet for someone.
Who knows with monarch these day. The airline has little direction these days and doesn't stand out from the crowd anymore.
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Old 15th Jan 2012, 16:04
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It actually was a mon engineer who told me about the possibilty of NGs

mon are a great airline with a lot of history hope they get their act together ASAP
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Old 15th Jan 2012, 19:42
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Lets hope so, we need clarification. After the bombshell dropping the 787 order and now rumours of 738s! after MON has consistently stated it intends to aquire more 321s and has spent the last few years standardising on this type!! I ccant believe this about turn, if its true. This is how BMI came unstuck, lets hope Monarch does get their act together. I first flew on their 720B!
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Old 15th Jan 2012, 19:46
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TBH the 737NG rumour is not new, i was told a few months back, things may have changed ,however they do seem to be in a bit of a pickle, lets hope some clear leadership comes to the fore
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Old 15th Jan 2012, 20:29
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Why do you think Monarchs fleet planning is a mess?
They know what the fleet size and make up is going to be for this summer and next winter.
They may also know what is happening for summer 2013, they are just keeping it in house for those that need to know for the time being.
The A321s have no problem with the routes they operate and l have yet to see fuel stops on the SSH, so please enlighten me.
Yes they are getting A320s in March, but not from Air Berlin, when the leases are signed you will be able to see where from on Jethros site.
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 08:06
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Grrr

I was told that the 'waiting list' for new Boeing or Aibus airframes was around 4 years unless a cancelled order was offered early, therefore the interim addition of the ex Air Berlin A320's is just that...interim.
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 09:52
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well if this 738 rumour is true then it seems odd, after Monarch has been building up an a321 fleet and stated this was the way MON would go 321 for both charter and scheduled so a 738, and it is only rumour and I hadnt heard it would be an odd aboutface. Also the 787, it was such a high profile order when they placed the order, MON was putting articles promoting the 787s introduction in their in flight mags, they seemed very sure of the order Mrspotty yet it seemed so out the blue when Monarch cancelled the 787 order and they seemed to just cancel out the blue. This doesnt seem like a confident fleet planning team to me. And Im sad to say this, as I have a lot of respect for the airline, well mostly pre Jeans and in the Bernstein era, MON was quality charter and the 'Crown Service' scheduled was a class operation.
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 10:07
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The NG would i imagine fit in very well and give them more flexibility, however where would they come from?
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 10:26
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If Jet2 can find them, I'm sure MON can.
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 10:43
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True but its finding enough and in the right condition that could be a problem, a mixed fleet would not be a option id say
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 10:50
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No doubt it's not an option. But there's a number of young 'Used' 738's on the EU market and a lot more in the US as the US market is seeing some better alternatives for types of routes they fly currently.

They're out there. Just depends if MON wants new gear or slightly used gear (as Jet2 have adopted).
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 12:02
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Ryanair are in the business of finding a good home for used B737-800s though i suspect the interior would need tweaked.......
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 15:54
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I would not say that Jet2 NGs are slightly used gear, they are operating some of the oldest NGs out there.
Now as for the Ryanair ones, well most airlines will not touch them with a barge poll.
You have a/c with fairly high number of cycles, but more important, engines that are close to major shop visits with the high cost that goes with it.
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 16:57
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I suppose it depends on the deal, can monarch not do engine overhauls in house?
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 18:33
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I thought the NG rumour came about as being connected with the deposits paid on the 787's when they were canx?
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 23:44
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I've read this last year somewhere on here, but anway, just incase it has slipped anyone's attention.

Monarch are operating an A330 out of NCL on Tuesday to SFB. Will be nice seeing a Spotty M in NCL once a week all summer up here!
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 04:19
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Monarch can not carry out engine overhauls in house and l don't know of a UK airline that can.
You could be looking at a couple of million per engine if not more.
It would be interesting to know how much the Jet2 NG engine that went bang cost them in the end.
The B737NG rumour has been about well before the B787 option and order cancellation.
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 05:39
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I've talked with a Jet2 captain about it once and he said the 737NG engine that went bang had a final cost of around £4million.
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 09:23
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That's nothing, you should try running an Alfa..
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 11:16
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Is the optional extra hair dryer that's playing up again? Oh wait a minute.... I doubt you need that! ;-)
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