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Old 24th May 2009, 22:33
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Not much has changed at M, infact very few have even heard of this non event
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Old 24th May 2009, 22:35
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There's only a handful of C/C in the "Unite" union. I flew today and for once there was someone on board that was a member (trust me it's rare). They hadn't heard anything about it and thought it was a bad idea to even discuss industrial action.

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Read again exactly what was said to the press....
I see nothing there that says they are balloting members. All that is there is a fair summerisation of the situation and a call to Monarch to come back to the table...
Surely the sensible thing for all concerned....
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Old 25th May 2009, 09:57
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If the small number of people in Unite do go ahead whith a strike, there should be enough management and day-off workers to see all the flights operate anyway. I would expect us to sub-charter rather than cancel any uncrewed flights, so passengers should be unaffected, whatever happens.
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Old 25th May 2009, 11:10
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Very true ZeBedie, and with only 600 out of 1300 cabin crew who are members of Unite, a strike vote would seem to be doomed as most of the ladies and gents have enough brains to know having a job at the moment is far more important then a rise.
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Grrr

The press have placed in the minds of the public that Monarch could be striking, enough for most people to look elsewhere for their tickets.
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Old 25th May 2009, 18:42
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Strike

Buster the Bear is correct, there has already been an article in the local Birmingham press about a possible strike, some damage has already been done.

Engage brain before opening mouth springs to mind ( or giving an interview ).

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Old 25th May 2009, 19:29
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How many aircraft are Monarch down at the moment? Been loads of sub charters over the last week. Plus delays at MAN on various flights, including a SSH-MAN running 2 days late.
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Old 25th May 2009, 20:00
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I wonder how much that little publicity stunt by Unite has cost in terms of booking numbers.

Unite - Useless and toothless

The ghosts of XL will still be fresh in peoples minds and the big two will walk away
with the spoils yet again.

Its no surprise that seat prices are so high for the remainder of '09.

The industry desperately needs Monarch - and Jet2, to offer some choice to pax.
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Old 27th May 2009, 10:46
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LGw - BJV (mondays)

Which ac type is op the 06.45 dep to BJV on Mondays this summer season? anyone know?
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Old 27th May 2009, 11:09
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Which ac type is op the 06.45 dep to BJV on Mondays this summer season? anyone know?
This flight is scheduled to be operated by an Airbus A321.

Hope this helps!
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LGW to Rhodes

Whilst we are on the subject, does anybody know what aircraft type Monarch operate on the 09:10 on Wednesdays to Rhodes from Gatwick?

Any info appreciated.
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Old 27th May 2009, 13:33
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MON5318 to Rhodes is scheduled to be operated by an Airbus A300.

Hope this helps!
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Old 27th May 2009, 14:20
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I wonder how much that little publicity stunt by Unite has cost in terms of booking numbers.

Unite - Useless and toothless
Sorry Greatoaks, I don't understand your logic, I think it is a great union tactic. If you consider that the strike weapon is primarily an economic one, which it is, then I think it quite legitimate that Unite release that this is under active consideration. The issue is, after all one that boils down to economics.

I hope that the CC are recognised in terms of pay for their contribution to the company.
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Old 27th May 2009, 14:51
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What planet are you on? If this idiot from unite loses Monarch a lot of customers It could cost His members their jobs,if only this guy would engage brain before opening his mouth better for all
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Old 27th May 2009, 15:07
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LGW to Rhodes

Sam1993 - much appreciated!
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Old 27th May 2009, 18:18
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Or, maybe better, that Monarch pay their staff appropriately. I have heard all the arguments over the years - "company cant afford it", "we are in difficult times", "we allhave to make sacrifices" etc, its funny how it is always the little person who has to make those sacrifices and the bosses still walk away with double digit pay rise. As the cousins would say, "Go figure".

Comparitively, I see MON's trading situation to be excellent, the envy of BA at least. So why are they not negotiating?

If Unite has sufficient of a member base to hurt them by the poss of strike action they have the base to be recognised for negotiations.

As to what Planet - Earth, UK 2009, not 1809.

Many trade unionists of your age and over fought for representation in the worklplace and I admire them deeply, I do not want to see their legacy go to waste.
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Old 27th May 2009, 22:23
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al446...how do you see Monarchs trading position to be excellent? Unless you're the FD or on the board how would you know? The company is private so you haven't a clue about the trading position.You sound like another Scargill throwback who spouts without a clue.

This union official has taken the chance to make a name for himself without any mandate. Had he actually gone to the workforce that he claims to represent and been given a mandate via a vote to strike then that is the time to start the rhetoric.

If it's the Monarch crew reps that have allowed him to go to the press then they should be sacked just as any other staff member who intentionally sets out to lose the company 100s of thousands of pounds would be.
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Old 27th May 2009, 22:26
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Sam1993, many thanks for the info :-)
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Old 28th May 2009, 07:06
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Well done you put it much better than I ,Your comment about Scargill was spot on,I thought that I was reading a Scargill handout from al446. Yes I am 70 years old and yes I and people like me had to fight for our conditions but there is a time and place to fight,and a time to use common sense. ALL airlines are struggling ,now is the time to HELP your company,survival is the name of the game at present
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