Ryanair - 7
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Europe
Posts: 970
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
FR new bases
Earlier this year Ryanair submitted a few offers to selected airports in Europe, precising the conditions it requires to establish its new bases there. By observing the results of the negotiations, we can already eliminate some of the potential candidates.
For example, Seville in Spain didn't met these conditions, offering only the discounts at restaurants and local services for FR pax. Carrier's answer: (it would have) "little or no commercial value for the company”. According to Michael Cawley, the discount card is a "poor substitute" for the formula presented by the Irish company to cut expenses in Seville. "No cards nor other similar article would offset the high costs that exist in the Seville airport compared with their counterparts from Italy or French or Portugal". Consequently, "I regret to inform you that your proposal does not cover us the opportunity to substantially increase our business at the airport in Seville or even establish a base of operations there." - writes Cawley in his letter to Ayuntamiento de Sevilla (the City Council).
Thus, for the time-being, Seville is out of question.
(based on Spanish-language news).
For example, Seville in Spain didn't met these conditions, offering only the discounts at restaurants and local services for FR pax. Carrier's answer: (it would have) "little or no commercial value for the company”. According to Michael Cawley, the discount card is a "poor substitute" for the formula presented by the Irish company to cut expenses in Seville. "No cards nor other similar article would offset the high costs that exist in the Seville airport compared with their counterparts from Italy or French or Portugal". Consequently, "I regret to inform you that your proposal does not cover us the opportunity to substantially increase our business at the airport in Seville or even establish a base of operations there." - writes Cawley in his letter to Ayuntamiento de Sevilla (the City Council).
Thus, for the time-being, Seville is out of question.
(based on Spanish-language news).
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
will ryanair go to BCN airport ??
Unless BCN were to offer them free facilites for a base there, I very much doubt it! And that ain't going to happen is it?!
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Balpamyass Palace
Age: 53
Posts: 262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Gerona and Reus are miles, miles away from Barcelona city. Ok it is Catalunya BUT it is not Barcelona. People going to Barcelona Capital are not very happy to spend 1h20 min more to drive on an expensive motorway or in a coach full of low class passengers. Also, adding 30 euros for a trip in coach to or out of barcelona is a killer for Ryanair. Hence, Vueling, Air Berlin, easyjet, Germanwings, Wizzair, Transavia are happy to get all those potential pax on their aircraft!Have you seen Barcelona El Prat airport at the moment??? The old terminal 2 is totally empty!!!! NOBODY. Just 2 aircraft on the tarmac every hour. That would be a good slots for Ryanair, but yes, it is not as cheap as secondary airports in the middle of NOWHERE such as GRO and REU
Maybe easyjet might be able to expand at BCN then ?
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Gerona and Reus are miles, miles away from Barcelona city. Ok it is Catalunya BUT it is not Barcelona. People going to Barcelona Capital are not very happy to spend 1h20 min more to drive on an expensive motorway or in a coach full of low class passengers. Also, adding 30 euros for a trip in coach to or out of barcelona is a killer for Ryanair. Hence, Vueling, Air Berlin, easyjet, Germanwings, Wizzair, Transavia are happy to get all those potential pax on their aircraft!
Have you seen Barcelona El Prat airport at the moment??? The old terminal 2 is totally empty!!!! NOBODY. Just 2 aircraft on the tarmac every hour. That would be a good slots for Ryanair, but yes, it is not as cheap as secondary airports in the middle of NOWHERE such as GRO and REU
Maybe easyjet might be able to expand at BCN then ?
It would, however, be idiotic for the two airlines to expand massive at the airport which already is served very well across Europe - more so than most! I know the two CEOs are not the best people in all areas, but they ain't stupid!
wind check, go away, look for some facts supporting your theory and then come back and inspire us. Thanks.
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Balpamyass Palace
Age: 53
Posts: 262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have also tried more than you the trip barcelona-GRO 
, followed by the ugly low cost terminal at GRO
Anyway, I am sure easyjet and/or vueling will expand at BCN, so...Bye bye Ryanair
NB: by the way, there are still lots of slots at BCN, the runways and taxiways are far from being busy.
, followed by the ugly low cost terminal at GRO Anyway, I am sure easyjet and/or vueling will expand at BCN, so...Bye bye Ryanair
NB: by the way, there are still lots of slots at BCN, the runways and taxiways are far from being busy.
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Aged 36 yet acting like a little child. Fair play, you don't like Ryanair and prefer to fly to BCN - do that but why do you have to share that with us in the form of 
:ouch :.
Ryanair are making fantastic money and I'm sure GRO is profitable less it wouldn't be one of it's flagship bases! In the summer it serves the holiday market, winter the skiing and between both the city link.
Their fares make it very attractive to low budget holiday makers who cannot afford/don't want to pay the high/er prices of easyJet, Vueling, BA, Iberia etc.
The 4.1m people that used the airport in the last twelve months, probably consisting of 80-85% Ryanair customers cannot be wrong!
:ouch :. Ryanair are making fantastic money and I'm sure GRO is profitable less it wouldn't be one of it's flagship bases! In the summer it serves the holiday market, winter the skiing and between both the city link.
Their fares make it very attractive to low budget holiday makers who cannot afford/don't want to pay the high/er prices of easyJet, Vueling, BA, Iberia etc.
The 4.1m people that used the airport in the last twelve months, probably consisting of 80-85% Ryanair customers cannot be wrong!
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Balpamyass Palace
Age: 53
Posts: 262
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ryanair passengers are so stupid that they would buy a ryanair ticket 200% more expensive than easyjet or vueling or Iberia, and they will be proud of themselves as they will think they've done a good deal
Ryanair is struggling in spite of their millions passengers carried. Michael o Leary is unable to sell out his aircraft on the second hand market, and together with that, Boeing and Airbus lo mandan a la mierda
your boss made a good deal after Sept 11, but now it's a different story.
Ryanair is struggling in spite of their millions passengers carried. Michael o Leary is unable to sell out his aircraft on the second hand market, and together with that, Boeing and Airbus lo mandan a la mierda
your boss made a good deal after Sept 11, but now it's a different story.
WindCheck - I am unable to discern whether you are simply a troll spoiling for a fight, or whether you are trying to make a point. If you are trying to make a particular point, you will receive a better response from others by taking a less hostile tone in your comments
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Essex
Posts: 579
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
On the question of El Prat vs. Girona/Reus, what Ryanair has in its favour is the absence of a metro link to El Prat. The airport bus from El Prat can be quite an ordeal; I can't imagine the BarcelonaBus alternative to be much (if any) worse.
The Renfe Cercanias (suburban) train service from El Prat is infrequent (two per hour in each direction), the station is some way from the terminal buildings, and it, too, can be very busy.
So, if I was considering travelling to Barcelona, the Girona/Reus option would not look as unattractive as it might at first glance.
The Renfe Cercanias (suburban) train service from El Prat is infrequent (two per hour in each direction), the station is some way from the terminal buildings, and it, too, can be very busy.
So, if I was considering travelling to Barcelona, the Girona/Reus option would not look as unattractive as it might at first glance.
Spent some time last week with some Barcelona friends who were pretty clear that they expect FR to start up a base at BCN in 2010 partially because Terminal is free and also because Airport authorities want big influx of passengers and feel FR will doit more than US.
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Doncaster
Age: 63
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Girona is a lovely airport, but the hassle of the buses and the inconvenient arriving point (Estacio Nord) would make me prefer El Prat every time. Airbuses and trains are available and taxis aren't too horrendously priced if shared.
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,781
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
AENA are the airport operators so do AENA own all of the spanish airports the website states
So if they manage the airports does this include attracting operators? Does it include setting the fees?
If not I would suggest that El Prat would want to attract Ryanair but not to all routes. I could see that El Prat would want to incentivise any routes that currently do not have an existing operator.
What would that leave for Girona? El Prat could bring big incentive to new routes or destinations that would be new for them.
Last year there was fever pitch on here saying that Barcelona was imminent!!!
We will have to wait and see...
Aena manages 47 airports and one heliport equipped with modern facilities and a complete range of commercial services
If not I would suggest that El Prat would want to attract Ryanair but not to all routes. I could see that El Prat would want to incentivise any routes that currently do not have an existing operator.
What would that leave for Girona? El Prat could bring big incentive to new routes or destinations that would be new for them.
Last year there was fever pitch on here saying that Barcelona was imminent!!!
We will have to wait and see...