DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
Passenger numbers:
1971 - 136,000
1972 - 162,000
1973 - 212,000
2011 - 192,410
2012 - 166,251
2013 - 159,311 (plus maybe 1,500 in transit)
Given the loss of charters and assuming no major changes, one might expect DTV in 2014 to perform at roughly the same level as (or perhaps slightly better than) 1971, the year that the pound was decimalised.
Plymouth airport in 2009 had 157,933 passengers. In April 2011, Plymouth's owner published notice of airport closure.
1971 - 136,000
1972 - 162,000
1973 - 212,000
2011 - 192,410
2012 - 166,251
2013 - 159,311 (plus maybe 1,500 in transit)
Given the loss of charters and assuming no major changes, one might expect DTV in 2014 to perform at roughly the same level as (or perhaps slightly better than) 1971, the year that the pound was decimalised.
Plymouth airport in 2009 had 157,933 passengers. In April 2011, Plymouth's owner published notice of airport closure.
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Indeed, the first positive news in a long time. A material increase on last December and the first rolling 12 month increase for around 13-14 months. That said, last December's number was incredibly low, but still, a positive figure for once.
Now...will it continue....?
Now...will it continue....?
AMS positive...maybe?
yes good figures but cant compare to last December as the service was decimated with multiple cancellations for what ever reason last year?
seems we are settling around 155K or maybe slightly less for 2014? still not good.
seems we are settling around 155K or maybe slightly less for 2014? still not good.
I think the battle about whether MME will pay it's way on pax alone (and the owners certainly think not) has been lost, so it needs to be looking to other sources of income.
The arguement now is whether the plans being put forward are the right one's, and whether they will lead to air services (or any aviation) activity being retained.
Personally, with the planned location of the proposed housing, I don't think Peel are serious about retaining regular airline services
The arguement now is whether the plans being put forward are the right one's, and whether they will lead to air services (or any aviation) activity being retained.
Personally, with the planned location of the proposed housing, I don't think Peel are serious about retaining regular airline services
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I know there are a couple of other airports in the country that have built houses but it's a rare thing, certainly most if not all airports have built industrial and business units to boost income.
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Peel may sell the land to a builder for houses
but the builder still has to get planning permission from the local council there is no guarantee the builder will get permission the locals may lodge objections and house may not be built or the council may just refuse
but the builder still has to get planning permission from the local council there is no guarantee the builder will get permission the locals may lodge objections and house may not be built or the council may just refuse
The land is worth a lot more with planning permission than without. Peel will either apply directly or the contract for sale on the land will have a clause saying the sale is void if there is no planning permission. Completion date will be set at 3.5 months after planning permission is granted to allow for judicial review or central Govt calling in. Nothing a half competent lawyer can't handle
If the local council chooses to give planning permission for houses to be built, they will need to be very very careful to ensure that the money Peel get from the house building is formally tied to the continued operation of a public use airport and all the infrastructure that goes with an airport (e.g. fire cover, ATC, etc...). If Peel were to break the link, the clause should stipulate some significant penalty that Peel must pay to the council.
Without a formal linkage, it would be very easy for Peel to take the money from selling the homes, and then after 3 years say that actually the airport still isn't viable anyway and want to sell more land for other development. 200 more houses, then another 300 more houses, then another 100 more houses, etc etc....
The result would be substantially uncontrolled development of the land and the loss of a commercial airport.
The alternative is for the council to admit the airport is non viable right now, and let the whole airport site be redeveloped on a large scale in a controlled way that substantially benefits the local area and residents.
Without a formal linkage, it would be very easy for Peel to take the money from selling the homes, and then after 3 years say that actually the airport still isn't viable anyway and want to sell more land for other development. 200 more houses, then another 300 more houses, then another 100 more houses, etc etc....
The result would be substantially uncontrolled development of the land and the loss of a commercial airport.
The alternative is for the council to admit the airport is non viable right now, and let the whole airport site be redeveloped on a large scale in a controlled way that substantially benefits the local area and residents.
Similar points to those made by DJ6 have also been made by NECC
Durham Tees Valley Airport plans get backing of commerce chiefs - Hartlepool Mail
Peel make the point in the masterplan that the profits from housing are needed to fund the the other investment required, so for the linkage to be formalised makes sense.
I'm not against housing on the site, but don't think the site chosen is compatible with keeping the site open for aviation long term. The only other comparison I can think of is Blackpool where the housing is on the far side of the airfield from the terminal etc, retail/industrial use by the active areas.
Durham Tees Valley Airport plans get backing of commerce chiefs - Hartlepool Mail
Peel make the point in the masterplan that the profits from housing are needed to fund the the other investment required, so for the linkage to be formalised makes sense.
I'm not against housing on the site, but don't think the site chosen is compatible with keeping the site open for aviation long term. The only other comparison I can think of is Blackpool where the housing is on the far side of the airfield from the terminal etc, retail/industrial use by the active areas.
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Looks like the last ABZ-MME-SOU and return tonight - Going via LBA next week - MME gets a Saab 2000 all to itself on a Sunday evening - Arr 19:30 departs 20:35.
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Just a quick Good luck message to all Calibrator Pilots losing their jobs as things transfer to BOH. You are an amazing bunch doing a very difficult job. I left FRA/Cobham several years ago to go into the airlines and honestly it was the best move for me, even though I didn't realise it at the time. It will work out in the end however hard things may be in the immediate future.
Gutted to see one of the best jobs in aviation destroyed.
Again Good Luck.
FPS
Gutted to see one of the best jobs in aviation destroyed.
Again Good Luck.
FPS
How much traffic is there likely to be at 9 am on a Sunday morning in January anyway ?
Is it possible there was a screw-up with some roster or someone had a flood at home and couldn't make it to work at the normal time ?
Yes, in an ideal world everything should run perfectly but at a tiddly airport run on a shoestring like MME it's not affordable to have backups for everything.
What was the impact of the 30 mins closure ? How many diverts ? How many movements didn't take place ?
Is it possible there was a screw-up with some roster or someone had a flood at home and couldn't make it to work at the normal time ?
Yes, in an ideal world everything should run perfectly but at a tiddly airport run on a shoestring like MME it's not affordable to have backups for everything.
What was the impact of the 30 mins closure ? How many diverts ? How many movements didn't take place ?
DTV closed
Yes but what message does it send out to the rest of the aviation world?
However I started writing this and thought..no new message as everyone knows the whole set up is a shambles?
I also see one of the flight traing schools has a dispute with the airport...I suppose we can guess what that is about
Wonder how many other disputes are bubbling under the surface...ah..the master plan!!!
However I started writing this and thought..no new message as everyone knows the whole set up is a shambles?
I also see one of the flight traing schools has a dispute with the airport...I suppose we can guess what that is about
Wonder how many other disputes are bubbling under the surface...ah..the master plan!!!
I also see one of the flight traing schools has a dispute with the airport...I suppose we can guess what that is about
