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DSA is an EasyJet base this has been confirmed by the airline with 39 staff stationed at DSA (Crew & Ground).....
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We truly are a European business with 19 bases on the Continent, providing a home for Crew and Engineering Teams within our growing network. Current European bases include:
- Basel
- Belfast
- Bristol
- Berlin
- Charles de Gaulle
- East Midlands
- Edinburgh
- London Gatwick
- London Luton
- London Stansted
- Geneva
- Glasgow
- Liverpool
- Lyon
- Madrid
- Manchester
- Milan Malpensa
- Newcastle
- Paris Orly
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It is certainly not a base. There is no crew
based there as all the crews come from Lpl on 2/3/4 day trips
with some Man crew going as well..
So I don't know where you get that figure..
based there as all the crews come from Lpl on 2/3/4 day trips
with some Man crew going as well..
So I don't know where you get that figure..
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Kavs8,
There is no crew permanently based at DSA. Crew only nightstop there; all end up back at LPL. That, is a fact. No crew park their cars at DSA in order to do a day's duties. There isn't even a crewroom.
Of course, it all depends on your definition of a base. If a base is somewhere where an aircraft appears to be parked overnight, then this might be a base. Taking this as a definition, most of BA's short haul route destinations would be bases. I'm sure those nightstopping BA crew would be the last ones to describe Sofia as a base...
Cymmon,
As any fule no, that list is out-of-date; that EMA is no longer a base is a moot point with quite a few relocated crew.
If people don't want to believe those of us who actually work for the airline and do the trips, then please relieve yourselves of the burden of this thread. Just because this is a rumour site doesn't mean that a thread has to be needlessly perpetuated in the most banal way to the nth degree, fuelled by inaccuracies and dodgy intelligence from the 'net.
There is no crew permanently based at DSA. Crew only nightstop there; all end up back at LPL. That, is a fact. No crew park their cars at DSA in order to do a day's duties. There isn't even a crewroom.
Of course, it all depends on your definition of a base. If a base is somewhere where an aircraft appears to be parked overnight, then this might be a base. Taking this as a definition, most of BA's short haul route destinations would be bases. I'm sure those nightstopping BA crew would be the last ones to describe Sofia as a base...
Cymmon,
As any fule no, that list is out-of-date; that EMA is no longer a base is a moot point with quite a few relocated crew.
If people don't want to believe those of us who actually work for the airline and do the trips, then please relieve yourselves of the burden of this thread. Just because this is a rumour site doesn't mean that a thread has to be needlessly perpetuated in the most banal way to the nth degree, fuelled by inaccuracies and dodgy intelligence from the 'net.
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DSA is basically a parking space for one of their aircraft for the night. There is no offices for easyJet, no crew room, no crew, no admin etc. based at DSA.
Obviously if you class that as a 'base,' then that's fine, but you are wrong.
I think this will be argued to days if it isn't cut short.
The top and bottom of it is that every night an easyJet plane lands in DSA and the crew stay in a hotel. The plane then departs in the morning to AMS etc. and swaps with an LPL/MAN based machine and then that new aircraft flies the remainder of the days schedule and then lands at DSA in the evening, the crew again staying in a hotel. Its an on going circle.
LPL or MAN, for example, work completely differently. Crew arrive at the airport, visit the crew room, grab their plane, do a days work and return to their homes. The plane will then continue to fly for the remainder of the day and it starts again the following.
Do you consider FRA, CMB or SIN to be EK bases? What about SIN for QF? For goodness sakes, EI have more flights out of LHR early morning that U2 does with DSA all day! And they night-stop at LHR also! But again, they aren't 'bases.'
Obviously if you class that as a 'base,' then that's fine, but you are wrong.
I think this will be argued to days if it isn't cut short.
The top and bottom of it is that every night an easyJet plane lands in DSA and the crew stay in a hotel. The plane then departs in the morning to AMS etc. and swaps with an LPL/MAN based machine and then that new aircraft flies the remainder of the days schedule and then lands at DSA in the evening, the crew again staying in a hotel. Its an on going circle.
LPL or MAN, for example, work completely differently. Crew arrive at the airport, visit the crew room, grab their plane, do a days work and return to their homes. The plane will then continue to fly for the remainder of the day and it starts again the following.
Do you consider FRA, CMB or SIN to be EK bases? What about SIN for QF? For goodness sakes, EI have more flights out of LHR early morning that U2 does with DSA all day! And they night-stop at LHR also! But again, they aren't 'bases.'
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We truly are a European business with 19 bases on the Continent, providing a home for Crew and Engineering Teams within our growing network. Current European bases include:
We truly are a European business with 19 bases on the Continent, providing a home for Crew and Engineering Teams within our growing network. Current European bases include:
- Basel
- Belfast
- Bristol
- Berlin
- Charles de Gaulle
- East Midlands
- Edinburgh
- London Gatwick
- London Luton
- London Stansted
- Geneva
- Glasgow
- Liverpool
- Lyon
- Madrid
- Manchester
- Milan Malpensa
- Newcastle
- Paris Orly
I agree with the three previous members, it's not a base. It's exactly how they did with FCO at the beginning with several aircraft sleeping there but crews still coming from MXP etc until recently where the base were set up.
The only fact to sleep at the airport is not an enough criteria to define a base, or easyJet has also a base in NCE (every day one aircraft / crew stay overnight at Nice to go back to paris in the morning)
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Is there anyway of finding out about the load factor on flights in advance? I'm off to Barcelona on Saturday at 07.15AM from Liverpool and returning on Sunday 16th May landing at Liverpool at 23.55. Will the current prices of the tickets give anything away?
Hope I will be going and that no new ash cloud shuts us down again
Thanks for any info given.
Hope I will be going and that no new ash cloud shuts us down again
Thanks for any info given.
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The top and bottom of it is that every night an easyJet plane lands in DSA and the crew stay in a hotel. The plane then departs in the morning to AMS etc. and swaps with an LPL/MAN based machine and then that new aircraft flies the remainder of the days schedule and then lands at DSA in the evening, the crew again staying in a hotel. Its an on going circle.
Secondly EZY dont fly DSA/AMS 'in the morning'.
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Dear god - I wish I hadn't bothered. Just read back through all the preceding nonsense.
I was pointing out that it is ironic that at the same time as advertising that it flies from 'main' airports, it is loudly trumpeting that it is starting flying from Doncaster. Whether it's an operational base or any other kind of base is actually irrelevant to the point being made.
Pedantry (and knee jerk responding) lives on at pprune.
A scan through some of the other threads confirms.
As might be expected there are a number of Easyjet employees on here that, understandably, would wish to defend their employer. Fine. But if someone wants to point out contradictions in the way this airline (or any other) markets itself, that should be fine too. Chill.
I was pointing out that it is ironic that at the same time as advertising that it flies from 'main' airports, it is loudly trumpeting that it is starting flying from Doncaster. Whether it's an operational base or any other kind of base is actually irrelevant to the point being made.
Pedantry (and knee jerk responding) lives on at pprune.
A scan through some of the other threads confirms.
As might be expected there are a number of Easyjet employees on here that, understandably, would wish to defend their employer. Fine. But if someone wants to point out contradictions in the way this airline (or any other) markets itself, that should be fine too. Chill.
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I dont also consider Liverpool, Bristol, or Newcastle to be 'Main airports' but easyJet have bases there.
However the destinations in which they fly to from all of the above plus Doncaster, are main, internationally aclaimed airports (AMS, BCN, PMI, PRG, FAO etc) not out of town tin huts like some other blue and yellow airlines may take their customers.
I still cant believe people are referring to DSA as a 'base'. It is NOT. 1xA319 nightstops, as do 2 LPL based crews. (1 for the early FAO/PRG, and 1 for the late AMS/BCN/PMI). They may stay 1 , 2 or 3 nights, depending on how it is rostered, finally returning to Liverpool at the end of the 'trip'.
For example, a crew may do LPL-FAO-DSA (nightstop) DSA-FAO-LPL.
Hope this clears it up once and for all.
However the destinations in which they fly to from all of the above plus Doncaster, are main, internationally aclaimed airports (AMS, BCN, PMI, PRG, FAO etc) not out of town tin huts like some other blue and yellow airlines may take their customers.
I still cant believe people are referring to DSA as a 'base'. It is NOT. 1xA319 nightstops, as do 2 LPL based crews. (1 for the early FAO/PRG, and 1 for the late AMS/BCN/PMI). They may stay 1 , 2 or 3 nights, depending on how it is rostered, finally returning to Liverpool at the end of the 'trip'.
For example, a crew may do LPL-FAO-DSA (nightstop) DSA-FAO-LPL.
Hope this clears it up once and for all.
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With this whole main airports debate, is the crux of the matter not advertising a major city or destination and flying to a smaller airport miles away? Easyjet are advertising Doncaster as Doncaster, not as Leeds or some other conurbation somewhere. The main airport for Doncaster, is surprisingly Doncaster.
Ryanair on the otherhand (amongst others) advertise a major city or destination, but will not actually fly you to that city's "main" airport, good examples being Hahn, Beauvais and Girona / Reus.
My take was Easyjet fly, not necessarily to only main cities or airports, but will fly you to the destiantions main airport (if that makes any sense).
Ryanair on the otherhand (amongst others) advertise a major city or destination, but will not actually fly you to that city's "main" airport, good examples being Hahn, Beauvais and Girona / Reus.
My take was Easyjet fly, not necessarily to only main cities or airports, but will fly you to the destiantions main airport (if that makes any sense).
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I dont also consider Liverpool, Bristol, or Newcastle to be 'Main airports' but easyJet have bases there
The 'main airport' point refers to the likes of FR using Hahn, for example, as an airport tagged as Frankfurt which is 75 miles away as opposed to Liverpool, in your example, thats sits entirely within the city boundary.
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I was using it as a case of, Liverpool is not a main airport in the UK for example. Not a major international airport. That was the point of that comment. Thankyou please
Sorry for the confusion. Yes I do agree though if easyJet say they are taking you somewhere, they take you there
Sorry for the confusion. Yes I do agree though if easyJet say they are taking you somewhere, they take you there
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And?
I said "I dont consider" meaning it is my personal opinion....and I work there. And I hate this, "3rd busiest UK airport outside London" Why not include the london airports and say it is the 7th busiest UK airport?
And if you also look i mention other airports such as Bristol and Newcastle.
Like I say, just an opinion
I said "I dont consider" meaning it is my personal opinion....and I work there. And I hate this, "3rd busiest UK airport outside London" Why not include the london airports and say it is the 7th busiest UK airport?
And if you also look i mention other airports such as Bristol and Newcastle.
Like I say, just an opinion
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Liverpool is the third biggest airport, in terms of international passenger totals, outside of London in the UK behind MAN and BHX.
Every airport in the United Kingdom could have a claim to being a major airport if you chose to ignore other airports existence... Cardiff Airport is the biggest airport in the United Kingdom outside England, Scotland and NI....
Inverness Airport is the biggest airport in the United Kingdom excluding all airports further south.
I said "I dont consider" meaning it is my personal opinion....and I work there. And I hate this, "3rd busiest UK airport outside London" Why not include the london airports and say it is the 7th busiest UK airport?
And if you also look i mention other airports such as Bristol and Newcastle.
Like I say, just an opinion.
And if you also look i mention other airports such as Bristol and Newcastle.
Like I say, just an opinion.
You cant simply say "we wont count London airports, and Glasgow and Edinburgh dont matter because they have less international passengers".
As far as I'm aware, Liverpool is the 10th busiest airport in the United Kingdom.