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Old 31st Jan 2015, 19:53
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Well the welsh and the Scottish have benefitted from government subsidised flights and airports, NI has APD exemptions and Scotland will likely be getting APD cuts. Don't see any problem with this scheme if it stimulates business links, tourism and inward investment to areas throughout the UK including England as we have zero support for any of our services.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 20:16
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including England as we have zero support for any of our services.
NQY-LGW is subsidised.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 20:46
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So it's airlines that go to the government and say "we want to fly AAA-BBB because CCC and it's effects will be beneficial for XYZ, so please can we have a cut"? And then the airport gets the money to subsidise the new route.

Which airlines have actively approached NCL recently? Supposedly Swiss so that could be a potential applicant? Could make us more attractive to Turkish?

Finally, if we (hopefully) exceed 5 million passengers within the next 3 years are we still eligible?
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 20:59
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NQYLGW - any more than this one route? Either way proportionally England receives very little support compared to the others.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 21:23
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Google is your friend...

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...uidance-2a.pdf

Note that routes to airports between 3-5m can only benefit in “duly substantiated exceptional cases”, which will be determined by the EU Commission, and airlines must have an EU operating licence. I would imagine the figure would be at the time of the application (or a proceeding period).
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What's the reference on that document to find the answer to my question? Viewing it on a tiny screen but can find of no current subsidised routed to of from or within England.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 22:46
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If it's up to anyone other than NE Councillors and the airport... We're getting nowt.
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 15:45
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Jet2 -New York

This years Xmas shopping trips now on sale!!

5 flights for Newcastle

These must make jet2 lots of money
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 20:41
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Glad to see them doing well, hopefully they'll stick around if UA go year round. Good to see the 757's back next year, I think it's strange that as of this year we will only have 757's going across the pond.
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Old 5th Feb 2015, 06:14
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They used to go everywhere other than across the pond , I remember way back in 2007 getting a TCX 757 to Reus ! & 1998 a Airtours 757 to Girona

This year was actually first time it wasnt part of the Holiday experience ( A321 to SSH )
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Old 5th Feb 2015, 17:11
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Yeah it's weird haha, I'm not sure if I like it or not, I'd love another one based, can't understand Jet2's logic really if it's true they've been moved due to takeoff performance.
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Old 5th Feb 2015, 17:29
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Both aircraft empty, a 757 weighs about 12 tonnes more than an A321. Fuel consumption reflects this, so unless the extra range or takeoff performance is needed, A321 makes more sense on most routes from a cost perspective.
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Old 5th Feb 2015, 18:25
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having flew the new A321 i wouldnt have the 757 back personally , Fantastic aircraft ! Those new Thomas cook scandinavia 321s are doing 6HR + flights

Airbus will bridge the atlantic with a single isle someday IMO
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Old 5th Feb 2015, 18:51
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A321

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The A321 NEO LR is already on the market (not built yet) and at 4000nm will cover UK Transatlantics to the east coast of America no problem and at a stretch Chicago.

All it needs is someone to commit with American and United having the opportunity I would have thought to convert some options.

This could be brilliant for the likes of Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Leeds, Belfast and BHX where really wide-bodies are extravagant or non-starters.

Airbus Launches Long-Range A321neo Version | Commercial Aviation content from Aviation Week.

As yet I have not seen any article to suggest that the likes of United or American have ordered it but I am sure Airbus would have sounded them out before committing to the project.

Then of course Thomas Cook also could make use of it from the UK or from Europe and if it lives up to the stats it can only be a winner on both sides of the Atlantic.

The 757 will be missed by some including me having fond memories flying BA from BHX-JFK but the A321 NEO LR will be the new kid on the block shortly.

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Old 5th Feb 2015, 19:06
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Just looking at US carrier's alone , The backbone of their fleets are 757s , If Airbus do go on to make and produce a true replacement there is a massive market and will soon be massive demand as the 757s get older and older
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Relativeto other fleet types, not sure Id say 757s were 'backbones' anymore...
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Old 6th Feb 2015, 05:42
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There are a fair number of 757 routes that wouldnt support a widebody though, without a single isle able to cross the pond United would never of tried NCL imo
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Old 9th Feb 2015, 06:34
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North East airport bosses say Chancellor needs to act now over English air tax uncertainty - The Journal
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Old 9th Feb 2015, 09:06
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Yes, yes he does. But no, no he wont. We're about 250 miles too north to care about.

And I don't understand MAN's concern and I think it might take the concern off NCL a bit. It's easily an hour more to drive MAN-GLA than driving NCL-EDI. Then there's also the fact that, really Manchester has such a wide customer base, large amount of based airlines and very varied routes not available elsewhere... That it can probably hold its own.
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 09:30
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Other than Emirates, do any of the other airlines operating into NCL class it as Captain only?
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