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Yeah when I said FR I thought new markets not existing markets.
There used to be widebodies in and out in the 80's/90's too, like NCL-TFS on an L1011, but we're undoubtedly better off now (in terms of capacity and frequency)
There used to be widebodies in and out in the 80's/90's too, like NCL-TFS on an L1011, but we're undoubtedly better off now (in terms of capacity and frequency)
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The only thing FR would bring in terms of new routes would be low yielding Eastern European ones. Again these would likely stop once start up incentives finish. Very few holiday routes can support multiple carriers outside the core routes.
With dozens of routes already directly and six hub connections on network carriers there can't be much scope for new routes not already covered in NCL given the based aircraft there already.
With dozens of routes already directly and six hub connections on network carriers there can't be much scope for new routes not already covered in NCL given the based aircraft there already.
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Scope would definitely be Milan and more EU (specifically Germany lacking). Wizz would probably be better in place of FR on eastern Europe routes. If EZY were to leave, FR would be a good fill, they could serve all the same routes.
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Ryanair would not pose a major threat if they filled in the gaps - but that would involve a degree of cooperation with the other airlines, something for which they are not famous.
It would be lovely to have Milan and Oslo back, I had flown on both and the Italian flight seemed to be particularly well subscribed. Additionally a few more flights to the German and Polish speaking world which I feel is massively underserved at NCL would be nice. Ryanair does not have to be based here, just fly here from some of the bases they have elsewhere.
It would be lovely to have Milan and Oslo back, I had flown on both and the Italian flight seemed to be particularly well subscribed. Additionally a few more flights to the German and Polish speaking world which I feel is massively underserved at NCL would be nice. Ryanair does not have to be based here, just fly here from some of the bases they have elsewhere.
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Couldn't agree more northumberlandairway, your comment about Poland, I think Wizz would be perfect, they did well from MME so why couldn't they do just as well or better from a larger market? Warsaw, Riga and Gdansk would be a good start. Riga would be a massive hit, Wizz are dirt cheap, as is Riga and geordies love stag nights.
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I think it was the choice of airport they picked??
Look at every other airline that has been there!!
Look at why Thomson left?
If they did give ncl to Warsaw a go or other places I'm sure it could work
Look at every other airline that has been there!!
Look at why Thomson left?
If they did give ncl to Warsaw a go or other places I'm sure it could work
Your re-writing history if your comparing Wizz and Thomson at MME.
More to the point, lets compare Wizz's overall growth and their position in the UK. When did they last launch a UK route outside Luton?
More to the point, lets compare Wizz's overall growth and their position in the UK. When did they last launch a UK route outside Luton?
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It was only a few months ago:
Riga from Liverpool
Move from Prestwick to Glasgow (doesn't really count but they've been going from strength to strength)
Katowice and Vilnius from Belfast
Bucharest from Doncaster started in June
Riga from Liverpool
Move from Prestwick to Glasgow (doesn't really count but they've been going from strength to strength)
Katowice and Vilnius from Belfast
Bucharest from Doncaster started in June
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So we can safely say Wizz have expanded lately in the UK.
Warsaw would be the obvious route for NCL should Wizz wish to dip their toe in the North East market again. Let's face it Poland is massively under served in the North East compared to other regions of the UK. Anywhere else Wizz might want to fly Geordies off to?
Warsaw would be the obvious route for NCL should Wizz wish to dip their toe in the North East market again. Let's face it Poland is massively under served in the North East compared to other regions of the UK. Anywhere else Wizz might want to fly Geordies off to?
Before we expand the Wizz network from NCL, any evidence that they are interested??
Given the low level of visibility of Wizz in the UK, I would expect any flights to be targeted at the other end and the relatively low level of East Europeans in the North East would count against NCL.
Given the low level of visibility of Wizz in the UK, I would expect any flights to be targeted at the other end and the relatively low level of East Europeans in the North East would count against NCL.
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Yeah that's right GrahamK, they seemed way too optimistic from the start but I really do wish they had gotten off the ground. Whether Newcastle to Bydgoszczczzcz is a very popular route, who knows, but it could have worked.
Apart from Riga and Warsaw which would probably be the best opening routes, possibly along with Gdansk, I think Budapest (unless Jet2 ever start it - I'm really really surprised they haven't considering they picked up Prague and Krakow from EZY, and NCL is the only remaining route from KRK) could have a shot, then Vilnius, Wroclaw and or Poznan. I'd say there wouldn't be much more outside of those routes, I'd desperately hope they wouldn't start Katowice because we might lose Krakow (although Wizz traffic would be more inbound than LS). If there were to be any others,
- Sofia? I dunno I doubt it, they can't offer anything to ski traffic from the UK. - Bucharest? Possible, people could use it to connect as it's a large base (obviously more successful if they did offer connections)
- Kiev, had the political situation been any better I think it would be a winner, Kiev is supposed to be a really amazing city.
Apart from Riga and Warsaw which would probably be the best opening routes, possibly along with Gdansk, I think Budapest (unless Jet2 ever start it - I'm really really surprised they haven't considering they picked up Prague and Krakow from EZY, and NCL is the only remaining route from KRK) could have a shot, then Vilnius, Wroclaw and or Poznan. I'd say there wouldn't be much more outside of those routes, I'd desperately hope they wouldn't start Katowice because we might lose Krakow (although Wizz traffic would be more inbound than LS). If there were to be any others,
- Sofia? I dunno I doubt it, they can't offer anything to ski traffic from the UK. - Bucharest? Possible, people could use it to connect as it's a large base (obviously more successful if they did offer connections)
- Kiev, had the political situation been any better I think it would be a winner, Kiev is supposed to be a really amazing city.
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- Kiev, had the political situation been any better I think it would be a winner, Kiev is supposed to be a really amazing city.
I believe this was due to be addressed ahead of them hosting the Euro Cup in 2012, but there will still be a language gap. Until that is resolved, it will remain a relatively niche destination.