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Old 1st Jul 2016, 05:16
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ezy already do sxf and gva. berlin is daily. gva is at least 3 daily and 6 on a saturda and i think 5 on a sunday.There are 60 routes flown by exy some seasonal and some all year round.there is 13 planes based this summer with 12 in winter.
this is in answer to ek77wncl abot his last posting.
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Old 1st Jul 2016, 08:42
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Originally Posted by skyhawk1
Eastern are stopping NCL - Bhx from 23 July. No demand for service
That's been clear for a few years now. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it has!
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Old 1st Jul 2016, 14:16
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Yeo Valley.. Are you sure? I think you may have drifted over here from the Bristol forum hahaha

SXF is new from NCL (although yes, back in about 2006 it was daily!) and GVA is certainly not 3-6 daily! Maybe 3-6 weekly if we're lucky (about 4 weekly for most of the year IIRC)
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Old 1st Jul 2016, 14:24
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Birmingham

I'm surprised it lasted as long as it has!
That's what I thought, and then I did the journey by train...
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Old 1st Jul 2016, 17:58
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That's what I thought, and then I did the journey by train...
Silly me! I'd forgotten that if a train service doesn't run to London, then the service is still stuck in the 19th century - in fact, probably it was quicker in the 19th century!
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Old 1st Jul 2016, 21:24
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It is atrocious like... Even Manchester is decidedly horrible on the train.

Shame there aren't really any viable alternate airlines to operate the route going forward, with attainable fares.
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 06:33
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i might have read yr post wrong,but how i read it,it was going to be new routes from brs. i was just saying these routes were already operated from brs.gva is 6 on saturdays 5 on sundays and at least double daily rest of week.it would be good additions from ncl.is there any sign aircraft numbers increased for based.is there many gaps in the based fleet through winter or summer.?
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Old 6th Jul 2016, 21:43
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CAA figures out, none of them seem right so ignore them.
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 09:01
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Originally Posted by EK77WNCL
It is atrocious like... Even Manchester is decidedly horrible on the train.

Shame there aren't really any viable alternate airlines to operate the route going forward, with attainable fares.
Ahh .. 'Gill Air' we miss you ..
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 09:27
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I used Cross Country over two years either BRSNCL, NCLBRS or both directions . I must admit it really is OK. In two years i did not have one cancellation and at worse a one hour delay due to someone walking on the tracks. They run an hourly service pretty much. You can buy a pass for WiFi which lasted me a few months and it actually works. Regular trolley runs or a makeshift buffet at one end if the train is busy. The food prices were OK. I think it is very strong competition to BHX and I'm surprised it lasted so long. You can also text a number and it will reserve you a seat given - only needs to be done ten minutes in advance. First can be had for just a slight premium if you are flexible.

Manchester trains are vile. Simple.
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 09:38
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From a connecting flight perspective I could see potential for flybe to operate NCL to both BHX and MAN

NCL is awkward to get too from some parts given the lack of connecting options if a direct flight isn't available.


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Old 7th Jul 2016, 09:48
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I used Cross Country over two years either BRSNCL, NCLBRS or both directions . I must admit it really is OK.
I find the seats too small on Cross country (I'm just under 6ft, so not particularly tall) - I'm far more comfortable on East Coast. Trains to Birmingham are often packed as well, with pax standing from York onwards - not pleasant.

Texting to reserve a seat ten minutes ahead is great, unless you're sat in that seat and so get turfed out and have to stand for an hour or so...
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 11:17
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A good point but each train has around 20 seats which are not reservable - a few of which have extra legroom. Just look at the seat map for NR and it will tell you where they are. You will never be turfed out and the lack of information screen above the seats confuses people so they avoid them. And you can quite confidently say "no I'm not" when someone claims you are sitting in their seat!

I did have to stand once between BHX and BRS but that's because I elected to take a quicker train whereas of normally get the direct one.

Yes its busy particularly between York and Leeds but I'd rather that than FAFF about changing.
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 14:27
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NCL/BHX

I am not sure of the loads on Newcastle/Southampton but that could be dropped into BHX with little difficulty. I have never used Eastern from BHX to NCL due to the flight prices but a sensibly priced flight would attract me and I am sure a lot of others.

Just a thought.

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Old 7th Jul 2016, 14:36
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Centre Cities,
I agree.
I'm trying to book a day return to Southampton on Flybe but it's working out at over £300, that's ridiculous.
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 14:57
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Agree with the others about NCL-BHX, the train seems to take forever but flight times and prices have never been good for me.

NCL-MAN sounds great in principle (and for O&D traffic) but providing feed for MAN is made difficult by the layout of the airport, a single terminal would make transfer traffic a much more viable option.
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 15:23
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I'm trying to book a day return to Southampton on Flybe but it's working out at over £300, that's ridiculous.
I know I'm getting old, but I'm always surprised that people think that £300 to get to the other end of the country and back in a day is expensive.

Yes - if you want to go tomorrow it's over £300 on BE, but the train is over £200 - and takes over 5 hours each way.

Looking a week ahead to next Thursday, you could do it for £150 on the train - and its still over 5 hours each way, but BE on the same day is cheaper than the train.

BTW, why is a return on the train twice the price of two singles?
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 23:27
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There was a large aircraft circling over Newcastle ar quite a low altitude yesterday afternoon, at around 14:30. Anyone know what it was? It wasn't showing on PlaneFinder or FR24.
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Old 8th Jul 2016, 06:59
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Probably the RAF on training again.
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Old 8th Jul 2016, 08:41
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I wondered what it was, too...
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