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Old 26th Nov 2014, 20:58
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£500 would seem about right for economy when you can get an 11-13 hour flight to Asia for not much more than that.

The prices over £1000 are ridiculous beyond words.
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 21:12
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Hi guys

Sorry to do this but some people may want to know
Just been looking at the new york prices again and found this

Monday 1st june flying out returning friday 5th landing 6th at NCL

United price per person £986
BA price per person £1680
KLM/AF price per person £1045

So looking at those dates OUR direct flight is cheapest.

I know that not all dates we will win but looking ahead,
£500 would seem about right for economy when you can get an 11-13 hour flight to Asia for not much more than that.

The prices over £1000 are ridiculous beyond words.
But Aer Lingus come in at £675....Really impressive value, only fools would turn that down.
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 22:10
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That's ridiculous considering I'm probably going to Dubai 20th-28th June and the flights are £385.36 return and they aren't even the cheapest, cheapest is £365.36, first time I've seen these low fares available from Newcastle, it's always been £460+ in the past I'm sure.
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 22:48
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I realise I'm not as frequent at posting as many of you on here but the only thing I'll say is be grateful! We have been given the opportunity that many other 'regional' airports would only dream for. Instead of the incessant complaining just be pleased that we have been given the opportunity instead of picking at it straight away. Yes, I know I will get some backlash from this but all I ever read on here is negative and pessimistic comments/claims with very little to back said comments up. Yes, prices may be high, but no airline will start a route if they aren't going to make money, it's business, not a charity. So go with it, just because the regular attendees/members of PPRuNe won't pay the prices doesn't mean the vast majority of others won't.
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 22:58
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I wasn't being negative I was just stating a fact that the prices for ALL airlines to the USA seen to be in line with each other and are very high compared to what we see advertising in the newspapers and travel agent windows...

Maybe those prices of £399-£550 are sale prices.


One good thing is that if all airlines are charging those higher prices then people must be paying it which is good as the airlines need to make money!!

Very true we need to be grateful for what we have.
I'm just sad that I may have been priced out for using these services next year!
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 23:57
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Yeah and that will probably be a slight problem with the service, I'm sure it will be a success but the flights are always expensive in the first year, and as my above post showed with EK, it has taken 7 years for the prices to fall, I'm sure they have about halved compared to what some EK prices used to be, but that's good, EK are obviously confident that they can charge lower fares and still make money, although it works both ways because June is also one of their worst performing months.

Either way, I hope that UA do stick it out, but due to the high prices for the first year or two loads might take time to build, and as they do prices should fall, I hope!

I have a question about LS for summer 2015, some frequencies have been cut, so far I've noticed FAO down 7-6 weekly, and LPA and HER are only 1 weekly next year, I could have sworn that LPA was 2 weekly and HER supposed to be going from 2-3 weekly instead of the other way. Anyone know for sure?
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 05:17
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If flights are expensive in the first year then they are doing things the wrong way round.
They should be cheap in the first year, barely breaking even or at a slight loss, to get the route established, then up the prices to what the market will stand.
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 06:09
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Being heavily trailed on the news this morning that APD rates are to be devolved to the Scots - big blow to NCL.
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 08:34
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Changes to APD in the Autumn Financial Statement on 3rd Dec are also being trailed
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 08:50
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Prices UA to New York

Any info on how flight sales are performing to date? Maybe the cheaper fares are no longer available due to higher than expected demand.
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 10:29
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The reason why the prices quoted above are so expensive is because of the rules which the lower fare tiers have attached to them.

The majority of outbound Monday, return Friday flights will be that expensive as, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure the cheaper fare tiers require either a certain number of nights or a certain night stay (e.g. Saturday).

Looking for example at departing Monday 1st and returning Sunday 7th:

BA - £624
UA - £692
KL/AF - £484
EI - £603

In my own personal experience, I went to NY in Feb on a Monday-Friday package. Flight only would have been around 1600pp yet the package with the same flights was around 700pp so it just depends when you are travelling and in what way as to whether the cheaper fares are available.
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 11:03
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UA Fares ex NCL
I think the views expressed re next summers UA fares are perhaps somewhat parochial in that you are simply considering one destination. The whole point of the UA flight is to offer service to NYC & BEYOND. It may be that the incremental cost of NCL to LAX,SFO, ORD or where ever come in pretty keen. Who knows & if all one is doing is to access comparative fares from one of the many internet based search engines then you may only be provided with part of the picture.
I personally find all this discussion on UA fares presumably in an attempt to judge demand / potential success futile. At the end of the day UA will work within market forces, & without an insight into their marketing strategy then current observations reveal nothing, and as already noted are actually negative.
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 15:44
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Ridiculous decision by our incompetent government to devolve APD in Scotland... Or is it ridiculous of them to keep it in the UK? I can't abide by this attitude that we have to suck up to Scotland now to keep the yes voters happy.

I would hope all the UK airports will be lobbying against this decision but it's only really Newcastle that stands to lose quite a lot out of this.

UK APD is astronomical and we're all stupid enough to pay for it.
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 16:06
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I would say it`s anywhere within 2hrs for GLA/EDI that will be affected
and off course London is not in that area.

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Old 27th Nov 2014, 16:07
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Devolving air levy to Scotland could mean 1,000 North East jobs are placed in jeopardy - The Journal

And from earlier in the week.

Newcastle Airport chief lobbies party leaders over crucial Air Passenger Duty - The Journal
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 19:26
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we have to suck up to Scotland now to keep the yes voters happy.
Not sure who you mean by 'we' but it's the 'No' voters that the government need to 'suck up' to!

Seriously though, we had the chance of a type of devolution in 2000 (not much, but it would have started us in the right direction), but we turned it down. However, I appreciate that you weren't involved in that vote , EK7
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 20:56
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Seriously though, we had the chance of a type of devolution in 2000 (not much, but it would have started us in the right direction), but we turned it down.
This devolution would have been wrong for the region - It was to be imposed from Westminster with their pre-conditions - Not even sure whether Prescott new the full implications of what was being proposed. What the region (and other UK regions) needs is full federalism which will personalise political and fiscal policies which best suits the region as autonomous from Westminster. Germany are quite successful in this regard, which has benefited the whole country.
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 21:56
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has anyone noticed that AGADIR has re-appeared in the Thomson timetable for Summer 15 MAY - OCT operates on Thurs dep 1640 arr Fri 0140
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Old 28th Nov 2014, 00:35
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Brilliant Jamesair, I was concerned when they cancelled it that it might scare others off Morocco but if it's back that's good news. NCL's first "scheduled" Morocco link?

And what do you mean Jensdad, I was an avid supporter of regional devolution at the ripe old age of 2 ... Srsly though - as the kids might say - I hope when regional devolution comes up again in the near future as is planned, that it is voted for, supported and the North East gets the break it's deserved. NCL was just on the way back up man!
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Old 29th Nov 2014, 07:16
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It was never removed from the timetable section. Unfortunately the route remains dropped. The Friday AEA Palma has been dropped, and it seems Antalya has now been dropped completely too
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