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Old 23rd Jul 2013, 21:40
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Does EK have fifth freedom rights between the UK and the USA? Be surprised if they do!
Words of Laurie Berryman:

Perhaps one day, through fifth freedom flights (commercial aviation rights),
Emirates could fly Dubai to New York via Manchester? “We do hold some rights out of the regions, so I would never say never
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 11:46
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Forget NYC.

What NCL needs to try and get is the return of flights to places like Chania, Santorini, Thessaloniki, Izmir and the Dominican Republic on the charter side of things, and on the scheduled side, maybe EIR to DUB, someone to restart BRU and the reintroduction of the 2nd DUS flight.
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 13:16
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you honestly think Chania and Santorini would bring the same inward investment and returns that a potential scheduled transatlantic US route would ?
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 13:31
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No, but with APD the way it is, and oil prices, it's not exactly ther best market conditions for a route across the atlantic.
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 14:53
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Inward investment

I agree we need the link to east for the trade investment.
Hopefully we will gain this link soon rather than never!



Winter 2013/14 timetable is now ready to be viewed on airport website under timetables
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 17:40
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It's not gonna happen (APD among many other reasons) the airport even said it themselves recently on their social networking feed. It was monotonous then and its monotonous now... please please please forget about it.

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Old 24th Jul 2013, 18:11
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...feel free to avoid the topic.
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 18:35
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You're too kind - thank you.
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 21:11
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I'm sure XL did Santorini a few years ago and from what I can remember the loads weren't hugely impressive.

TCX used to do Izmir for a fair few summers, if I remember correctly, and again mustn't of been hugely popular as that's now been stopped. I think including that with the fact there's a big increase on Dalaman and a slight increase to Bodrum it made sense to cut the route.

I might be wrong (usually am) but again I think someone previously did Thessalonki (perhaps TOM?)

Anyways don't think there's a market, as someone has mentioned, for charters. I've been wrong before though!
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 22:04
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I'm sure those Greek routes could work again but not with the big tour operators like Thomson or Thomas cook!!

I think that Olympic holidays would be the best operator to start those kind of flights again from ncl as before hand it was kosmar part of excel group!

Maybe they could charter jet2 737-300's for the route.
I'm sure they could get a good 90% loads and maybe jet2holidays could offer too??

Maybe EZY may look into these?
It's a long shot for any of them can't see them coming back for summer 2014 maybe by 2016/7! I'm not a 100% sure but I think it maybe just LGW and MAN that offer those routes now
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 22:11
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I thought either TOM or TCX did Santorini two or three years ago. HH6072 will know.
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 06:38
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TCX did do Santorini certainly for 1 year after Xl went bust, possibly two. The Greek routes were always popular but most of the specialist Greek tour operators (Kosmar, Priceright etc.) have also gone bust leaving only Olympic who aren't big enough on their own it needs TOM, TCX or LS to move in too, and in answer to the previous post the LS 737-300 doesn't have the legs for Greece so they would need to use the 757 which has worked for them on Corfu, Kos and Rhodes but it probably too big for these routes?
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 07:57
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Masterplan released for Newcastle

Overview - Newcastle Airport
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 08:49
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Typhoons

Does anybody know what time the Typhoons Land at NCL on Friday, Heard its around 16.30 the same Time as the Red Arrows?
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 08:58
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Thats not strickly correct "deltahotel9", As Jet2 have 2x Boeing 737-300WL's, G-GDFL & G-GDFN that would have the legs to do some Greek routes direct from Newcastle, eg Zakynthos, Corfu, Santorini & Thessaloniki. But these aircraft are normally based at Blackpool & Belfast to do there longer summer routes and swapped with Leeds based aircraft for maintaince..
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 17:53
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Anyone know why Virgin Little Red's Airbus A320, EI-EZW has been up at Newcastle this afternoon?
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 18:05
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Route proving

(not really - weather div from EDI - presumably thunder storms?)
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 19:27
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Yup, weather div from EDI.

TOM will b operating NCL-PUY alongside Jet2 next summer, making 4 flights a week between NCL and Croatia. Seems the Balkans are picking up
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 20:07
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Thomson

ZTH

The above is now showing as 2x weekly with a new flight on Tuesdays
Now Sunday and Tuesdays

Also showing ACE by TCX on a Sunday is this a new flight also?
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Old 28th Jul 2013, 20:04
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Have Thomas Cook Airlines dropped Dalaman from Newcastle?!?
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