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Airline to ground Newcastle to Brussels flight link - Today's News - News - JournalLive
Airline to ground Newcastle to Brussels flight link - Today's News - News - JournalLive
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"This announcement should be placed in the context of Newcastle International Airport announcing new routes into Eastern Europe and Scandinavia over the past 12 months, all of which will ease access to new markets for North East businesses,” he said.
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I may be unduly pessimistic but the loss of the Brussels connection (used it several times myself, including once a Metro!) is something I have been predicting ever since the arrival of Emirates and their daily widebody. Or more precisely, the potential loss of all NCL’s connectivity into the networks.
Emirates are carrying – what? – 200 a day in each direction (I’m looking at the December figures. How many of these do you think are NCL/DXB O&D? At a guess I would say fifteen, max 30 a day. Which means that all the rest are being diverted from BA/LHR. AF/PAR. KL/AMS or SN/BRU. These feeder services are at very best marginally profitable, right now are probably quite heavily loss-making. Those transfer pax onto the longhauls (in the case of SN, Africa) are the lifeblood of the NCL route.
Consider this: with the EU emissions trading scheme extended to air transport, every airline has a bunch of credits, insufficient to their needs, which need to be allocated across their networks. Along with all their other worries (sky-high fuel prices, weak markets) thay are going to be asking themselves – are those scarce credits worth using on an already shaky regional link, or could they be better used elsewhere?
I spent a large chunk of my teenage years at Woolsington and I have always closely followed its route development. I was delighted when the foreign flag carriers began to include NCL in their networks – until EK. Theirs is a highly distortive business model and I fear the worst.
Emirates are carrying – what? – 200 a day in each direction (I’m looking at the December figures. How many of these do you think are NCL/DXB O&D? At a guess I would say fifteen, max 30 a day. Which means that all the rest are being diverted from BA/LHR. AF/PAR. KL/AMS or SN/BRU. These feeder services are at very best marginally profitable, right now are probably quite heavily loss-making. Those transfer pax onto the longhauls (in the case of SN, Africa) are the lifeblood of the NCL route.
Consider this: with the EU emissions trading scheme extended to air transport, every airline has a bunch of credits, insufficient to their needs, which need to be allocated across their networks. Along with all their other worries (sky-high fuel prices, weak markets) thay are going to be asking themselves – are those scarce credits worth using on an already shaky regional link, or could they be better used elsewhere?
I spent a large chunk of my teenage years at Woolsington and I have always closely followed its route development. I was delighted when the foreign flag carriers began to include NCL in their networks – until EK. Theirs is a highly distortive business model and I fear the worst.
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I am in total agreement with your observation as to market conditions, indeed as I stated in an earlier post in respect of pax no.'s then
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However I can't see as to where else you are going wrt EK
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As one who took their first flight from NCL back in 1962, it's only when one puts on the "rose tinted glasses" that there were ever "good old days" at NCL, routes have come & gone, as a result of market forces, subsidies or whatever. Case of one door opening & another closing, and so it continues with EK. We now have the situation of "Mega Hubs", and the more of these that NCL are able to access of then the better for the travelling pax.
The downside is & always will be that shorthaul point to point pax will suffer, in quality / availablility of service, offering a potential market for Loco's. The real problem is that at NCL & possibly the NE England as a whole, then there simply isn't sufficient pax demand in this market to fill gaps / expand further. Hence NCL-BRU may become another loser...
I am in total agreement with your observation as to market conditions, indeed as I stated in an earlier post in respect of pax no.'s then
you now have the situation that one carriers gain is another's loss
However I can't see as to where else you are going wrt EK
Theirs is a highly distortive business model and I fear the worst.
As one who took their first flight from NCL back in 1962, it's only when one puts on the "rose tinted glasses" that there were ever "good old days" at NCL, routes have come & gone, as a result of market forces, subsidies or whatever. Case of one door opening & another closing, and so it continues with EK. We now have the situation of "Mega Hubs", and the more of these that NCL are able to access of then the better for the travelling pax.
The downside is & always will be that shorthaul point to point pax will suffer, in quality / availablility of service, offering a potential market for Loco's. The real problem is that at NCL & possibly the NE England as a whole, then there simply isn't sufficient pax demand in this market to fill gaps / expand further. Hence NCL-BRU may become another loser...
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We now have the situation of "Mega Hubs", and the more of these that NCL are able to access of then the better for the travelling pax.
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EK westbound Uk to USA Canada
Mmm maybe you are right but I see more ad more Ek and Ey pax going WEst via Dublin clearing customs immigration in Dublin and onward with EI Dl Ua US etc so eg: Dxb man dub ord Ek and EI , now NCL not linked yet but plans are there for EIR NCL DUblin so who knows ! A lot of non Eu passengers like clearing border controls in Dublin , we have softened those Us border folks over the years 
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Newcastle too Expensive!
Is Newcastle just too expensive? - The number of people I have heard of recently booking flights for Family Holidays from Edinburgh or Manchester to save in the region of £600 must be an indication that Newcastle Airport are charging airlines too much when compared to neighbouring airports. Even comparisons with LCC show much better terms being offered from Edinburgh (as an example) If the result of this is losing routes, not only from easyJet, but now from key business routes, should the management team now be asked some questions about their performance and relationship with key airline customers. They will no doubt argue that a strict structured charging model brings in greater profit, compared to waiving charges to LCCs such as Ryanair etc..for greater retail sales; but a percentage of Zero is Zero! - Edinburgh and others have recently battled with Ryanair and easyJet; but with skilled negotiations and strong management, they seem to have succeeded in retaining and adding routes to their network. Can Newcastle Airport learn some lessons? Dave Laws seems a popular manager, but maybe such an important asset to our region requires much more. An experienced team, led by an MD who can raise the professional profile and be an "Ambassador" in maximising our airport's potential.
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Mmm maybe you are right but I see more ad more Ek and Ey pax going WEst via Dublin clearing customs immigration in Dublin
must be an indication that Newcastle Airport are charging airlines too much when compared to neighbouring airports
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Yes and you'll find NCL is way cheaper than EDI depending on the time of year for example the school holidays. It's supply and demand. Airlines wouldn't be asking for rates that they're not confident that they'll achieve.
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