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Correct me if I'm wrong but that's -44 seats per plane per flight for Thomson.
Thomas Cook minus an A320 for the entire Summer season.
No Air Transat.
Easy still at 3 as far as I know.
The odd additional flight from none based aircraft, but nowhere near covering the loss. That will be a Summer on Summer decrease in pax by the looks of it.
Thomas Cook minus an A320 for the entire Summer season.
No Air Transat.
Easy still at 3 as far as I know.
The odd additional flight from none based aircraft, but nowhere near covering the loss. That will be a Summer on Summer decrease in pax by the looks of it.
Isn't there an extra a/c from Jet2?
Looks like a reduction in terms of a/c numbers based, but how does that equate to flights flown?
For example, the leased TCX 320 wasn't busy all week, so the reduction might not be that great if the three based a/c are operated fully plus additional third party and 'W' flights.
Looks like a reduction in terms of a/c numbers based, but how does that equate to flights flown?
For example, the leased TCX 320 wasn't busy all week, so the reduction might not be that great if the three based a/c are operated fully plus additional third party and 'W' flights.
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I've not seen anything regarding a Jet2 increase, but I've not been looking. That being said there's always Jet2 aircraft standing around somewhere on the airfield doing nothing.
I'm pretty sure the other 3 TCX aircraft were fully utilised last year, so whatever the 4th one did is a loss. Are any of the based aircraft due to operate 'W' flights away from NCL?
I recon on 3-4 additional flights by non-based aircraft, although 2 of them don't start until the end of July.
nb. I don't know if this was the same last year but there seems to be 3 Thomson Ws away from Newcastle during the week (Naples, Reus & Alicante).
We won't know until the Summer season results are published, but it's a reduction from where I'm sitting at the minute.
I'm pretty sure the other 3 TCX aircraft were fully utilised last year, so whatever the 4th one did is a loss. Are any of the based aircraft due to operate 'W' flights away from NCL?
I recon on 3-4 additional flights by non-based aircraft, although 2 of them don't start until the end of July.
nb. I don't know if this was the same last year but there seems to be 3 Thomson Ws away from Newcastle during the week (Naples, Reus & Alicante).
We won't know until the Summer season results are published, but it's a reduction from where I'm sitting at the minute.
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Summer 2013
From what I heard last summer, 3 of the TCX aircraft were quite well utilized but there were sometimes periods of inactivity perhaps longer than would be expected. The 4th aircraft seemed to be used much less than the others also operating several W rotations to other airports.
So its no surprise that there are 3 aircraft this summer (with greater utilization??). It would be interesting to know how many seats are available on TCX flights this summer and add them to the other airlines now used by TCX at NCL this summer and compare them with the number available last summer on the 4 aircraft flying for TCX then. Maybe it will not be a huge reduction. Does anyone have this data?
Obviously TOM will have less seats with the 738s versus the 752.
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Being reported on another thread that they are cutting 300 jobs overall, reviewing routes etc. Someone is speculating that NCL and MAN routes would be worst hit.
They do unfortunatley seem to have run down the NCL- LGW route with erratic frequencys. Today again (nothing to do with weather) no early flight just 2 afternoon rotations. Some days just one flight. The dwindling passenger numbers are understandable in the circumstances. Even SOU has had cuts on some days. Of course the Jersey route has competition now from Easyjet. So It will be interesting to see what happens and of course a worrying time for the staff.
So its no surprise that there are 3 aircraft this summer (with greater utilization??). It would be interesting to know how many seats are available on TCX flights this summer and add them to the other airlines now used by TCX at NCL this summer and compare them with the number available last summer on the 4 aircraft flying for TCX then. Maybe it will not be a huge reduction. Does anyone have this data?
Obviously TOM will have less seats with the 738s versus the 752.
FlyBe
Being reported on another thread that they are cutting 300 jobs overall, reviewing routes etc. Someone is speculating that NCL and MAN routes would be worst hit.
They do unfortunatley seem to have run down the NCL- LGW route with erratic frequencys. Today again (nothing to do with weather) no early flight just 2 afternoon rotations. Some days just one flight. The dwindling passenger numbers are understandable in the circumstances. Even SOU has had cuts on some days. Of course the Jersey route has competition now from Easyjet. So It will be interesting to see what happens and of course a worrying time for the staff.
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Jet for the summer per this: -
brussels airlines S13 European Operation Changes as of 23JAN13 | Airline Route – Worldwide Airline Route Updates
One GDS site showing the RJ85, however with only one apparently left in service it is highly unlikely.
So a reasonable capacity increase if it is the RJ100.
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brussels airlines S13 European Operation Changes as of 23JAN13 | Airline Route – Worldwide Airline Route Updates
One GDS site showing the RJ85, however with only one apparently left in service it is highly unlikely.
So a reasonable capacity increase if it is the RJ100.
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Newcastle Airport - Wikipedia (AA to JFK from Nov 12th
It's appeared again today on Wikipedia Newcastle Airport : American Airlines service to New York JFK commencing November 12th 2013
: (extract):Newcastle Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Air France operated by CityJet Paris-Charles de Gaulle
American Airlines New York JFK (Commences November 12 2013)
BH Air Seasonal: Bourgas, Sofia, Varna
British Airways London-Heathrow
Brussels Airlines operated by Flybe Brussels
Not available on AA Booking Tool as direct, but showing codeshare BA flight at extortionate rate (£2,147) - United are showing NCL to EWR via BRU codeshare with Brussels Airlines at £515 rtn (Cheaper than United's direct service from BHX & EDI.
Guess someone either has info on AA service talks or just putting mis-information on Wikipedia.
: (extract):Newcastle Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Air France operated by CityJet Paris-Charles de Gaulle
American Airlines New York JFK (Commences November 12 2013)
BH Air Seasonal: Bourgas, Sofia, Varna
British Airways London-Heathrow
Brussels Airlines operated by Flybe Brussels
Not available on AA Booking Tool as direct, but showing codeshare BA flight at extortionate rate (£2,147) - United are showing NCL to EWR via BRU codeshare with Brussels Airlines at £515 rtn (Cheaper than United's direct service from BHX & EDI.
Guess someone either has info on AA service talks or just putting mis-information on Wikipedia.
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No airline in their right mind would start a transatlantic service in November. I think we can safely assume someone with time on their hands is trying to have some fun. It is about time they grew up.
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It's fake, the same person who did the last edit (wikipedia) to that also put on that the Emirates route is ending in the summer time.
The first person to do those edits seems to edit plenty of airport wiki pages, almost daily, also they edit a lot of football related pages.
I doubt anyone would have access to that sort of information unless they were high up in command with NCL management or the airlines themselves.
A few days ago I took to twitter to contact NCL and they denied any knowledge of the new routes.
The first person to do those edits seems to edit plenty of airport wiki pages, almost daily, also they edit a lot of football related pages.
I doubt anyone would have access to that sort of information unless they were high up in command with NCL management or the airlines themselves.
A few days ago I took to twitter to contact NCL and they denied any knowledge of the new routes.
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What is that airport doing to prevent these losses? Surely the 'economic climate' can't be blamed, as LBA (A similarly sized airport) is seeing new bases from TOM, MON and expansion from LS.
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BE have today announced a two year plan focussed on getting the company back to profitability
Flybe | Corporate | Media | News archive
The announcement states that BE could slash 10% of it's work force as part of the plan. The article states that the majority of the jobs that are expected to go are at Exeter, Manchester and Newcastle.
I am guessing that the possible NCL redundancies are due to the DH4 currently operated by BE for SN that operates ex NCL being transfered to EDI?.
Flybe | Corporate | Media | News archive
The announcement states that BE could slash 10% of it's work force as part of the plan. The article states that the majority of the jobs that are expected to go are at Exeter, Manchester and Newcastle.
I am guessing that the possible NCL redundancies are due to the DH4 currently operated by BE for SN that operates ex NCL being transfered to EDI?.
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I hope NCL read this.
From BBC
"Edinburgh Airport has announced a fund intended to attract operators willing to serve new destinations.
Finance worth £15m annually has been pledged for airlines considering flights from Edinburgh.
The funding will only be handed over once a commitment has been made to a new service.
The airport is hoping to expand its route network to include key destinations in Europe, North America and the Middle East."
From BBC
"Edinburgh Airport has announced a fund intended to attract operators willing to serve new destinations.
Finance worth £15m annually has been pledged for airlines considering flights from Edinburgh.
The funding will only be handed over once a commitment has been made to a new service.
The airport is hoping to expand its route network to include key destinations in Europe, North America and the Middle East."
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Im sure it just means they'll be willing to lose 15M on reducing handling /airport charges etc and cutting their margins even more... Will be interesting to see if it pays off... Cant really see it having a significant impact on NCL.
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Just been working out the average load for Decemeber based on the mix of 77L and the various different capacities of 77W that were used, and it appears that it was a lowly 56.6%. Is Newcastle still losing people to Glasgow and Manchester? Given the number of 3 class a/c that appeared, would it be wise for EK to start selling F?
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DECEMBER PAX
December pax figure highlights were:
Brussels.........3,604...+ 8%
Amsterdam....27,752..+ 24% (Easyjet coming onto the route)
Dubai...........14,910..+ 9%
Prague.......... 2418...+ 5%
Aberdeen..... .1923...+ 36%
Belfast Int.....16,078.+ 6%
Exeter............2888..+74%
Isle of Man......305....+65%
Paris CDG.......12,194..- 26% (Easyjet leaving the route)
Dusseldorf......2950.....- 21% (reduction in frequency)
Stavanger......1760..... - 10%
Dublin...........9883...... - 5% (reduction in frequency)
Gatwick........5544...- 17%
Belfast City...2491... - 14%
Birmingham... 564.... - 26%
Brussels.........3,604...+ 8%
Amsterdam....27,752..+ 24% (Easyjet coming onto the route)
Dubai...........14,910..+ 9%
Prague.......... 2418...+ 5%
Aberdeen..... .1923...+ 36%
Belfast Int.....16,078.+ 6%
Exeter............2888..+74%
Isle of Man......305....+65%
Paris CDG.......12,194..- 26% (Easyjet leaving the route)
Dusseldorf......2950.....- 21% (reduction in frequency)
Stavanger......1760..... - 10%
Dublin...........9883...... - 5% (reduction in frequency)
Gatwick........5544...- 17%
Belfast City...2491... - 14%
Birmingham... 564.... - 26%
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Reading the Airport Fees document on the website today, came across this, is this new, or has the passenger service charge always been charged by the airport?
http://www.newcastleairport.com/Medi...arges-2013.pdf
Charge applying from 1st January 2013:
A Passenger Service Charge of £13.39 per DEPARTING passenger on aircraft to arrival points outside the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man.
A Passenger Service Charge of £8.09 per DEPARTING passenger on aircraft to arrival points within the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man.
A Passenger Service Charge of £13.39 per DEPARTING passenger on aircraft to arrival points outside the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man.
A Passenger Service Charge of £8.09 per DEPARTING passenger on aircraft to arrival points within the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man.
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Always been like that, charges have changed over the years, this is how airports make money! However most airlines these days 'negotiate' these charges!! That means the likes of Ryanair reverse the charges and charge the airport per pax!!!
Always been like that, charges have changed over the years, this is how airports make money! However most airlines these days 'negotiate' these charges!! That means the likes of Ryanair reverse the charges and charge the airport per pax!!!
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Bergen Withdrawn
Just had an e-mail from Flybe asking me to ring a "premium rate" number to hear that our flights to Bergen in August have been cancelled due to the service being withdrawn. Eight of us had confirmed reservations and we where to attend a family wedding in Voss. There is of course the option of going KLM via Amsterdam at about twice the price but that would hurt !!. Arrrgh.
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From Newcastle to Bergen, your options are:
KLM via Amsterdam
SAS via Copenhagen
BA via Heathrow
Alternatively fly direct:
Newcastle to Stavanger with Wideroe
Edinburgh to Bergen with Norwegian
Manchester to Bergen with SAS
KLM via Amsterdam
SAS via Copenhagen
BA via Heathrow
Alternatively fly direct:
Newcastle to Stavanger with Wideroe
Edinburgh to Bergen with Norwegian
Manchester to Bergen with SAS
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