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Old 16th Mar 2013, 17:15
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Another interesting vid....keep posting
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Old 16th Mar 2013, 17:48
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February Statistics

A good second month with pax at 241,060 up 1.1% on Feb 2012. A pity that the BA Heathrow was 5% down with all the cancelled flights during the month, which would have resulted in a bigger monthly increase.

AMSTERDAM.....24,289 + 22% (PLUS EZY)
FARO............... 3,328 + 18%
MALTA............. 2,294 + 6%
DUBAI..............14,065 + 6%
MALAGA........... 7,719 + 40%
ARRECIFE......... 2,743 + 127%
TENERIFE......... 4,906 + 69%

BRUSSELS........ 3,087 - 13%
PARIS CDG....... 10,262 - 22% (MINUS EZY)
DUSSELDORF.... 2,341 - 24%
DUBLIN............ 10,406 - 17%
BARCELONA...... 4,189 -13%
STAVANGER...... 1,669 -14%
BERGEN............ 421 - 24%

ABERDEEN........ 2,567 + 27% (MORE FLIGHTS PLUS LARGER A/C)
BFS INT........... 16,622 + 5%
EXETER............ 2,339 + 82%

HEATHROW....... 36,973 - 5% (MANY CANCELLED FLIGHTS)
BFS CITY.......... 2,238 - 21%
BIRMINGHAM..... 714 - 36%
CARDIFF........... 979 - 19%

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Old 16th Mar 2013, 18:42
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what amazes me is that Dubai is third after LHR & AMS - thats a lot of traffic bypassing London
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Old 16th Mar 2013, 20:24
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HEATHROW....... 36,973 - 5% (MANY CANCELLED FLIGHTS)
what amazes me is that Dubai is third after LHR & AMS - thats a lot of traffic bypassing London
Coincidence?

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Old 16th Mar 2013, 21:44
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A point to keep in mind on the comparisons, Feb 2012 was a leap year with one extra day which makes all the figures look worse.

Heathrow was 44,701 in March 2012 which I think was a record on the route. Will March 2013 equal or exceed this?

April 2013 figures will take a hit with brussels dropping out but will, of course include Copenhagen.
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Old 16th Mar 2013, 22:18
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any more suggestions about the EZY extra based aircraft and or routes for it ?



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Old 16th Mar 2013, 23:02
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I'd say probably not. No extra crew recruited this year. If it is true it would be next summer at the earliest. I'd say this won't be happening any time soon, but stranger things have happened!
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...agreed. Most people will have already made plans for this year.
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Old 17th Mar 2013, 10:26
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Easyjet

I can't imagine Easyjet basing a 4th Aircraft, The Summer starts in 2 weeks Time for the likes of Easyjet, Jet2 etc and all of the Summer stuff has been sorted way in advance
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I'm sure with the low fares offered by Norwegian (compared to the services currently offered) and our close links with business and tourism in Scandinavia, a route network to/from Newcastle could be successful- especially with lack of ferry alternative. - Thoughts?

You will need to wait & see what's in EZY's plans
Are we talking about a possible re-introduction of the route to CPH - this is the only Scandinavian route I can see as real possibility for EZY out of NCL... I would not be surprised to see them go head-to-head with SAS and six months later SAS is gone from NCL again.
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Old 17th Mar 2013, 19:54
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Low cost airlines

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This is what P***** me off with the likes of easyjet, and Ryanair and to a certain extent jet2!!

They start routes that others already serve knowing well that in a few months time the other airline will pull out and they will be left solely on the route
However they then pull the route too leaving no one to serve the airport at all from the north east!!

I wish and hope they don't restart CPH! As we all know what will happen 12 months down the line Newcastle won't serve CPH anymore!!

Easyjet should start and try a brand new route like Madrid or Lisbon !!
Even just 2 x weekly..

Easyjet starting jersey has already made less choice for ncl since flybe have pulled the route on certain days
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Old 17th Mar 2013, 19:54
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I'm sure with the low fares offered by Norwegian (compared to the services currently offered) and our close links with business and tourism in Scandinavia, a route network to/from Newcastle could be successful- especially with lack of ferry alternative. - Thoughts?

You will need to wait & see what's in EZY's plans
Are we talking about a possible re-introduction of the route to CPH - this is the only Scandinavian route I can see as real possibility for EZY out of NCL... I would not be surprised to see them go head-to-head with SAS and six months later SAS is gone from NCL again.


More likely Norwegian Air Shuttle - Now, a low cost operation, who have grown substantially to other UK cities (by passing NCL!) - although Braathens successfully operated Daily Boeing 737 services to Oslo, Stavanger & Bergen to feed their hubs charging "regular" fares ( before LCC)

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Old 17th Mar 2013, 20:40
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Why cant Newcastle have some NEW routes? I feel Milan malpensa would be very popular along with maybe a route to Brittany in France from flybe as it is a popular holidaying area?
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Old 17th Mar 2013, 21:15
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Regardless of airline you have to realise that if LIS, MAD etc were potentially lucrative then airlines would operate them. Just because an airline decides to go where there is a strong market and where there is an incumbent doesn't automatically mean that the incumbent will pull off the route. There are countless routes where the newcomer, has grown the market or developed it's own niche. Besides, fostering monopolies isn't always the best for the consumer and I think we all realise that.

Now, from a supporter of an airports point of view I get where you are coming from. Of course you want to see new destinations but growing an airports network (as far as a vanity project goes) just isn't the airlines remit. As a business they have to follow the best returns and why should they take a hit on those returns (or even make a loss) just so you can see Madrid, Milan, Lisbon etc etc on your departure screens.

From an airport operators point of view, of course they want to grow their network so it is up to them to incentivise. Some airports provide incentive to new routes and often do their own research. Depending on that research they lobby the airlines. I'm not sure whether NCL has done this. If so, perhaps there just isn't a sizable market for Madrid, Milan or Lisbon??? I don't know.
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Old 17th Mar 2013, 23:53
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I think this is one of the reason we have got the Copenhagen route again because Copenhagen airport was/are offering incentives to airlines for new routes from the airport.
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CPH @ easyjet

I know what your saying the market may grow more but it won't easyjet aircraft are too big and they won't stay on the route long term and we will loose the link altogether FACT!!

Why not let SAS grow the market an maybe get 2 x daily using there smaller aircraft.

Easyjet to Milan would be nice a route that did well for Ryanair however they could make money using the aircraft to Manchester instead.
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Old 18th Mar 2013, 11:57
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As daft as I may sound, a flight that might be useful to NCL knowing from experience of my brother and his colleagues (a lot from our region) would be a flight to one of the oil rig places like Kazakhstan or Azerbaijan like Aberdeen have ...

EZY - I wish they would explore a little bit, I mean instead of Copenhagen why not go slightly north to Stockholm for example?

FR - I don't really think they have much interest in Newcastle? It's seems over the past few years to have tried and failed on routes Milan and Oslo
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Old 18th Mar 2013, 16:20
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As daft as I may sound, a flight that might be useful to NCL knowing from experience of my brother and his colleagues (a lot from our region) would be a flight to one of the oil rig places like Kazakhstan or Azerbaijan like Aberdeen have ...

Or had...............
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Old 18th Mar 2013, 18:01
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What about some new routes from Flybe or Jet2?
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Old 18th Mar 2013, 19:15
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What I don't get is why you are so confident that EZY would drop the route. As an airline, routes do have to perform but they don't really cut routes on a wholesale basis. Far from it. SK may well do a good job on the route but they are still on their arse meaning that, IMO, they present a higher risk of failing the route.
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