MANCHESTER - 7

[al446]

Momentary Lapse

So what you are saying is that by your 'creative licence' you can ignore the reality of the world around you and postulate what you wish, a form of blindness (what is myopia?) otherwise known as Walter Mitty Syndrome. Then you dream up some mythical person who can come along and force an unwilling shareholder to sell out their holding in a profitable airport group. That would be the Mafia would it?

Dream on or get real. Or are you a troll?

[simufly]

Emirates to Quit Manchester???

Any legs to this rumour, heard about it in class this morning.

[Wizofoz]

A quick look at loads in the next couple of weeks shows flights oversold in both directions on both daily flights,and we are still taking delivery of new aircraft, so it doesn't seem likely.

We might put on a third service or an A380 though....

[Vagrant]

That's an odd one! As staff, it is an awful option to get to the UK as it is always chockers on that route. Maybe there is some posturing going on???

V

[PA38]

Can Manchester handle an A380?????

[ManofMan]

Would explain why they opened the business lounge, cant think of one singular reason why they would pull a service that is chocka day in day out ???

[Random Flyer]

I'll bet every bit of money I have this is 110% bull!

[asianflyer2]

Emirates Manchester?

I hope they are not pulling out and would be very surprised if it happens. Their business lounge is one of the best I have been in and if you turn up early for the evening flight you get an excellent dinner even before boarding. The whole pace is run very professionally.

[Leonard320]

I can't see this when people are talking about a 3rd daily service.

The only thing that may be done is either reducing to a Daily 380 or going double daily with a 380 and 332 maybe.

I am not a MAN Spotter and only get to go up once or twice a year but from other sites and word of mouth I cant see this happening one bit. A 3rd daily possible sticking to Double daily with an 380 replacing one of the 77W's also very possible

Thanks
Ben Leonard

[Boeing 77W]

Can Manchester handle an A380?????

Yeah they can.

Last I heard was Airport Operations only accepted one on the ground at any one time. That still the case?

[purplehelmet]

man is caa approved to accept the a380 on a diversion, but it would have to be parked on a remote stand, stand 12 will be the only one able to accomadate the a380 when its finished, hopefully by sept 2010.

[OltonPete]

Air India hub

livemint article

Air India to consider Dublin for European hub this fortnight - Corporate News - livemint.com

Have to agree with the latter part of the article re MAN & BHX.

BHX would certainly have plenty of VFR traffic east and west
just shame about the runway. I assume LAX, SFO & YVR would
be on the cards with the reasonably large Indian expat profile.

I assume Manchester will be more than watching in this instance.

Pete

[MUFC_fan]

But Dublin offers an advantage as the only European airport where passengers can clear immigration for the US

Wrong.

A London-based aviation analyst said the facility of US immigration clearance was drawing even European airlines to Dublin.

“British Airways(BA) recently started an all-business A318 service from London City Airport to New York JFK with a fuel stop in Dublin on the outbound only,” he said.

Wrong again.

He too didn’t want to be named.

That is because he doesn't exist. What analyst would give his blab and then not say who he is or which company he works for?

I would take this article with the Atlantic's worth of salt - I highly doubt an airline executive would make such claims to the public when he hasn't even been in long term discussions with any airport...

[cyclops16]

Could it be feasible to have US pre-clearance at Manchester? The new body scanners,etc are already in use and until recently PIA used to have to land here before going stateside for security reasons and we already have 3 or 4 US airlines operating from MAN plus Virgin. I am not an expert in any way on these sort of things,it is more curiosity than anything else.Could it be beneficial to us by way of other airlines currently not using us as a pre-clearance facility whether it be just to gain clearance for passengers or/and including a splash and dash refuelling to go to the West coast of the states. We have 2 runways that are at the minute under used. But do we have the infrastructure to make it happen and if not what would be needed to make it happen.It is not as if we were out of the way as most traffic going stateside tends to come over us (within 25-30miles) as it routes for Pole Hill or Wallasey going West.If looking at it geographically we are just about in the right place.
What do you guys in the know think?


Mark

[42psi]

My understanding is that when introduced originally the pre-clearence facility could have (still could?) be introduced by the UK if wanted.

I was told that the UK was not prepared to allow US govt. agents to operate as it would infringe UK sovereignty.

As I recall it's to do with the powers that have to be ceded to the US immigration officers operating the facility.

[Curious Pax]

Presumably that argument was made a long while ago, and it no longer applies, as foreign agencies do now operate on UK soil - you clear French immigration/customs in the UK before boarding the train through the Channel Tunnel.

[GavinC]

Surely this Air India opportunity is one that MAN should pursue. With regards to security clearance, could this be done by extending T2 to the north and putting the US security clearance across the terminal building at the point of the extension so that it would create a segregated facility of a couple of stands to the north of where the terminal currently finishes?

Just a thought. And would need the UK Gov. to agree! But then again, if the UK Gov. did agree to the US agents working in MAN, would it ust be easier to do the checks at the security area anyway??

[cyclops16]

Curious Pax,
That was my thoughts as I read a while back there were French officers at the Eurostar terminal within a specific zone.I know that after watching a documentary about these officers 1 was sent home in disgrace for carrying a sidearm on the concourse of Waterloo station after forgetting to secure it in the French zone and going shopping so illegally brought a weapon into the UK,eventhough she had only walked from one side of the concourse to the other,but she was out of the French control zone with a firearm and also UK officers operating at the European channel ports in a UK control zone after I had watched UK Border force.So the argument as regards sovereignty is not as closed a book as it once was.

[rutankrd]

Whilst not a signatory to the Schengan the UK and France are working at frontiers WITHIN the EU within the Schengan framework.

Also The Eurostar operates under very special acts of Parliament !

Remember please that FREE an un-restricted travel within the EU is enshrined in the various treaties and actually the UK is acting largely alone by wanting to count people OUT of the country !

France does not need to run any formal frontier checks on ANY EU citizen be they Schengan or not - You just need to be carrying a EU approved ID card
(No need for a full passport and you know the UK had a very nice and easy travel document that could have met with this requirement - The old annual UK visitor visa- Cancelled without a suitable replacement because the gov want more revenue till such time we have that national ID card !)

The US pre-clearance issue whilst visually similar would be a whole differing ball game for the UK !

[Ian Brooks]

New Route annouced by Flybe MAN to BOH starting 27th May 6 days a week


Ian