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Emergency landing today....arrived at AVP to hear a Monarch A330 20 miles from touchdown, fire crews all in position
A330 landed fine (MON269 i think) rolled to the end, vacated A2 and stopped, had an inspection, taxiied to stand 85 with vehicles in attendance.
A330 landed fine (MON269 i think) rolled to the end, vacated A2 and stopped, had an inspection, taxiied to stand 85 with vehicles in attendance.
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LDG retraction problem, hence divert into MAN, ex LGW flight to TAB/GND.
Due to dept tomorrow now after night in hotels in not so hot MAN.
Not quite the same is it, MAN or TAB/GND.
Due to dept tomorrow now after night in hotels in not so hot MAN.
Not quite the same is it, MAN or TAB/GND.
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Manchester Runways
The traffic forecasts which were presented at the Runway 2 Inquiry (30 million pax by 2005) have proved very optimistic but they were drawn up in conjunction with the DfT model, they were not just MAN's dreams. During the heady growth days of the 1990s they seemed plausible, just about. Don't forget that the DfT, even as recently as the 2003 White Paper, was forecasting a 'potential' for 40M pax by 2016, which we all know is way out, yet the paper has not been revised.
It's true that MAN's second runway is under-utilised, but it has enabled MAN to operate higher runway safety standards than Gatwick because the single runway is not loaded up with 50 movements per hour. This enables MAN to operate industry-leading safety policies such as:
- Holding aircraft further away from the active runway (all holding points will be at 137m by the end of this year).
- Restricting the use of conditional ATC clearances
- Using lit stopbars 24/7
- Planning a 6-minute gap in operations to carry out routine runway inspections rather than driving along them at 60mph with an aircraft on short final.
The rest of the world is just waking up to the fact MAN has pioneered solutions to some of the most common risk factors in runway incursion and excursion events, putting safety before capacity.
It's true that MAN's second runway is under-utilised, but it has enabled MAN to operate higher runway safety standards than Gatwick because the single runway is not loaded up with 50 movements per hour. This enables MAN to operate industry-leading safety policies such as:
- Holding aircraft further away from the active runway (all holding points will be at 137m by the end of this year).
- Restricting the use of conditional ATC clearances
- Using lit stopbars 24/7
- Planning a 6-minute gap in operations to carry out routine runway inspections rather than driving along them at 60mph with an aircraft on short final.
The rest of the world is just waking up to the fact MAN has pioneered solutions to some of the most common risk factors in runway incursion and excursion events, putting safety before capacity.
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The rest of the world is just waking up to the fact MAN has pioneered solutions to some of the most common risk factors in runway incursion and excursion events, putting safety before capacity.
If they could have two runways with the same utilisation as LGW, they would take that over improved safety any day!
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ANA looking for new growth :)
Could be some more hopeful news for MAN 
ANA eyes new international routes as part of growth plan
For those users who do not agree with young forum users, it is tough. I have always followed Manchester Airport forums since I was about 7 and I always like keeping up to date with all the news and rumours. I no a few users hate me been on here but you will have to cope with it because I am committed to this forum
thanks planenutter
ANA eyes new international routes as part of growth plan
For those users who do not agree with young forum users, it is tough. I have always followed Manchester Airport forums since I was about 7 and I always like keeping up to date with all the news and rumours. I no a few users hate me been on here but you will have to cope with it because I am committed to this forum
thanks planenutter
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planenutter - keep posting! Everyone has and opinion, and in 5 years time you will be of voting age and paying tax so you are the future!
ANA has been mentioned on another forum and it is likely that they will be prowling around MAN in the near future.
The 787/A350XWB will be the making of Manchester - the future is looking brighter across the globe and the BA/AA/IB tie up will also help boost Manchester's future.
Mark my words!
ANA has been mentioned on another forum and it is likely that they will be prowling around MAN in the near future.
The 787/A350XWB will be the making of Manchester - the future is looking brighter across the globe and the BA/AA/IB tie up will also help boost Manchester's future.
Mark my words!
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Thanks MUFC_FAN
Thanks for the support MUFC_FAN, Much appriciated
Biman looking hopeful for a March 28th start as well!
Can't wait to see lots of new airlines prowling around the taxiways of MAN
planenutter
Biman looking hopeful for a March 28th start as well!
Can't wait to see lots of new airlines prowling around the taxiways of MAN
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The only words of warning I would offer is that there's a lot of utter nonsense talked on some of these boards. If I spend any amount of time reading on airliners.net, I end up wondering what planet some of these people live on as clearly they don't get out much!
From a commercial perspective, what holds MAN back in some airline's eyes is the fact that a direct route to MAN would impact on revenue and connections on an existing, proftable route to the UK, often LHR. Airlines like all large businesses are departmentalised and often what one lot want to see happen another lot is really keen to stop, both for good business reasons.
Former American Airlines CEO Bob Crandall famously said that his strategy of launching multiple B767 service to Europe bypassing the East Coast gateways of Pan Am and TWA would be a winner and would kill the B747. He was right in some ways, but a lot of those services have gone and the B747 is still here, being replaced by the B77W in many cases. Whether the cycle begins anew with the B787 and suceeds we shall see. This is the world of Alliances with World Hubs and connectivity between them, though of course that might all change as well....
From a commercial perspective, what holds MAN back in some airline's eyes is the fact that a direct route to MAN would impact on revenue and connections on an existing, proftable route to the UK, often LHR. Airlines like all large businesses are departmentalised and often what one lot want to see happen another lot is really keen to stop, both for good business reasons.
Former American Airlines CEO Bob Crandall famously said that his strategy of launching multiple B767 service to Europe bypassing the East Coast gateways of Pan Am and TWA would be a winner and would kill the B747. He was right in some ways, but a lot of those services have gone and the B747 is still here, being replaced by the B77W in many cases. Whether the cycle begins anew with the B787 and suceeds we shall see. This is the world of Alliances with World Hubs and connectivity between them, though of course that might all change as well....
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Planenutter,
Belive me it has nothing to do with your age...I really couldnt care less how old you are, as long as you can hold a conversation and contribute....and you have proved you can do that so keep em coming.
My only point was that the ANA story just does not ring true....we hardly have a massive Japanese focus point up north, just cant see them starting Manchester services whist other Japenese airline are cutting/have cut services to our capital.
Cheers
Belive me it has nothing to do with your age...I really couldnt care less how old you are, as long as you can hold a conversation and contribute....and you have proved you can do that so keep em coming.
My only point was that the ANA story just does not ring true....we hardly have a massive Japanese focus point up north, just cant see them starting Manchester services whist other Japenese airline are cutting/have cut services to our capital.
Cheers
Planenutter,
Belive me it has nothing to do with your age...I really couldnt care less how old you are, as long as you can hold a conversation and contribute....and you have proved you can do that so keep em coming.
Belive me it has nothing to do with your age...I really couldnt care less how old you are, as long as you can hold a conversation and contribute....and you have proved you can do that so keep em coming.
I'll wind my neck in before I make a howler myself.
Don't use text speak either.
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The only words of warning I would offer is that there's a lot of utter nonsense talked on some of these boards. If I spend any amount of time reading on airliners.net, I end up wondering what planet some of these people live on as clearly they don't get out much!
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From 29th March Air Baltic will lauch 3 weekly MAN-RIX with B737.
Press releases
Press releases
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:)
I'll try to improve my spelling
ANA do have a chance up here. I live in a town in North Yorkshire and we have atleast 50 Japanese residents. ANA was speculated a few months ago, I'm sure they will be here in a couple of years
planenutter
ANA do have a chance up here. I live in a town in North Yorkshire and we have atleast 50 Japanese residents. ANA was speculated a few months ago, I'm sure they will be here in a couple of years
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Tis the silly season at the moment I read.....
You all seem to be leaping off the cliff with
the 'planenutter' scat.
Hopefully the last posting by this '13 year old' will
show you how you have been had?
Goodluck.
MM
You all seem to be leaping off the cliff with
the 'planenutter' scat.
Hopefully the last posting by this '13 year old' will
show you how you have been had?
Goodluck.
MM
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Ana @ Man
I'd love to see ANA at MAN but the problem, as always, is one-way traffic. It will rely on Brits going East. Japs won't use it 'cos MAN is too far from Buckingham Palace, Tower of London, Harrods, Henley Regatta etc. It is nearer to Edinburgh Castle and Gleneagles but the Shuttle takes care of that.
Last edited by roverman; 28th Jan 2010 at 15:36. Reason: typo