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Thanks for the clarification 42psi. I believe there was at least one go around because of it.
With the construction and combustion of these things as they are, inspections of the operational areas was the only sensible option.
There were certainly a lot of them set off - or whatever the correct technical term is - to celebrate the start of the New Year last night. Never seen so many at once before. In all seriousness, I expect the CAA will address this somehow with advice at least.
Wonder if any other airports had the same problem?
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With the construction and combustion of these things as they are, inspections of the operational areas was the only sensible option.
There were certainly a lot of them set off - or whatever the correct technical term is - to celebrate the start of the New Year last night. Never seen so many at once before. In all seriousness, I expect the CAA will address this somehow with advice at least.
Wonder if any other airports had the same problem?
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Given the degree of publicity re Airport Body Scanners could the Manchester airport marketing department gain considerable currency from this especially for US travellers?
As ever another missed opportunity...........?
As ever another missed opportunity...........?
Thanks for the clarification 42psi. I believe there was at least one go around because of it.
That was the Monarch for stand 22 ... last arrival as such for the night and there'd been a bit of a gap since the last one landed.
With a fair few lanterns being seen heading our way as it started to make the approach a quick RWY inspection was decided on.
Nothing was actually found - although there were some picked up from the TWY just afterwards.
I've not heard of anyone else experiencing these although I guess there must be more of them in other parts of the world ??
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Can I just confirm that the runway in use last night (31st Dec into the 1st Jan), 05L, was not closed at any point. Very regular Inspections were carried out throughout the evening and early hours due to the high number of Chinese lanterns set off from the North of the airfield. With the wind at approx 330 @ 12 throughout the night, many lanterns from the City Centre and further South, tracked over, and in a lot of cases, landed on the airfield. As far as I'm aware the only aircraft affected was the I/B Monarch A321 around 00:10 which broke off his approach around 15 miles out to allow a runway inspection prior to arrival.
N.B. At least 30 Chinese lanterns were retrieved around the airfield.
N.B. At least 30 Chinese lanterns were retrieved around the airfield.
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Another rant about Manchesters inability to sell itself !
Given all the news coverage about body Scanners and the fact that the ONLY UK exit point to the US to have these is Manchester, there should have been an opportunity for some great free marketing fully emphasising the potential safer aspects of using Manchester over London..........
Given all the free exposure that could have been exploited here and 7 days into the story, I am staggered that not one spokesman from Manchester has appeared !
Contrast this to Chris Yates independent aviation consultant !
OK I appreciate they may not be used all the time and not neccesarily on US flights but so what, good marketing doesn't tell the tuth all the time ....
.....get on the b****y TV !!!!!!!!!
.......oh almost forgot, marketing are usually a bit bereft of creative thinking at Manchester anyway !
Given all the news coverage about body Scanners and the fact that the ONLY UK exit point to the US to have these is Manchester, there should have been an opportunity for some great free marketing fully emphasising the potential safer aspects of using Manchester over London..........
Given all the free exposure that could have been exploited here and 7 days into the story, I am staggered that not one spokesman from Manchester has appeared !
Contrast this to Chris Yates independent aviation consultant !
OK I appreciate they may not be used all the time and not neccesarily on US flights but so what, good marketing doesn't tell the tuth all the time ....
.....get on the b****y TV !!!!!!!!!
.......oh almost forgot, marketing are usually a bit bereft of creative thinking at Manchester anyway !
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"Contrast this to Chris Yates independent aviation consultant !
OK I appreciate they may not be used all the time and not neccesarily on US flights but so what, good marketing doesn't tell the tuth all the time ....
.....get on the b****y TV !!!!!!!!!"
RIGHT.
100%
esp as Mr Yates is a total "numpty" and spouts such rubbish ..
( I could go on.... as he is SO irritating!)
Happy New Year to all!
"Contrast this to Chris Yates independent aviation consultant !
OK I appreciate they may not be used all the time and not neccesarily on US flights but so what, good marketing doesn't tell the tuth all the time ....
.....get on the b****y TV !!!!!!!!!"
RIGHT.
100%
esp as Mr Yates is a total "numpty" and spouts such rubbish ..
( I could go on.... as he is SO irritating!)
Happy New Year to all!
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The media have been quite vocal about the screens and Manchester is getting a bit of credit for them.
The Telegraph described Manchester as "one of the safest airports in the world" due to it having the screens in operation. I doubt Israeli airports were taken into account when making that statement but it still looks good for the airport!
The Telegraph described Manchester as "one of the safest airports in the world" due to it having the screens in operation. I doubt Israeli airports were taken into account when making that statement but it still looks good for the airport!
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Manchester as "one of the safest airports in the world"
Arrived on VS76 New Years Day. Left MCO 77F, MAN struggling to hit 30F and where do we park? 219!!!! 400+ tired, cold and hacked off pax waiting for bus to T2 having just had a good view off empty stands with jetties straight into warmth.
At least the bags were waiting for us.
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The media have been quite vocal about the screens and Manchester is getting a bit of credit for them.
The Telegraph described Manchester as "one of the safest airports in the world" due to it having the screens in operation. I doubt Israeli airports were taken into account when making that statement but it still looks good for the airport!
Fair enough MUFC but Chris Yates has been on SKY BBC TV 5 Live etc etc for 6 days on the bounce now.......... you cannot buy that publicity , where on earth are the Manchester team ?
With US pax so nervous this was a great opportunity to capitalise !
OK it might not make much difference but cmon guys have a go at least !
Totally pisspoor !
The Telegraph described Manchester as "one of the safest airports in the world" due to it having the screens in operation. I doubt Israeli airports were taken into account when making that statement but it still looks good for the airport!
Fair enough MUFC but Chris Yates has been on SKY BBC TV 5 Live etc etc for 6 days on the bounce now.......... you cannot buy that publicity , where on earth are the Manchester team ?
With US pax so nervous this was a great opportunity to capitalise !
OK it might not make much difference but cmon guys have a go at least !
Totally pisspoor !
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It still remains 'quite amusing' reading the criticism and
rants of various posters on here.If only they could prize
away one of the top jobs in MAG and solve all the
problems before they come up or be available for a comment
- like a top-notch boss would be able to do.Providing
ofcourse that they were on call 24-7-365
MM
rants of various posters on here.If only they could prize
away one of the top jobs in MAG and solve all the
problems before they come up or be available for a comment
- like a top-notch boss would be able to do.Providing
ofcourse that they were on call 24-7-365
MM
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"It still remains 'quite amusing' reading the criticism and
rants of various posters on here.If only they could prize
away one of the top jobs in MAG and solve all the
problems before they come up or be available for a comment
- like a top-notch boss would be able to do.Providing
ofcourse that they were on call 24-7-365"
You are talking utter bollocks Mickeyman. But to be honest I actually think I "could" do a better job !
With regards to this specific topic I was unaware that the airport closed down between Christmas and New Year... (although actually it nearly did )
Any decent businessman who was given a golden opportunity such as this would have grapsed it with both hands and should and would have been waving the flag ! My God at Last we have a USP that other airports do not yet possess !
If I wa swrong in this observation I would hold my hands up, BUT personally, if had been the Marketing Director I would have been ringing the BBC and Sky on Christmas Day if there was a chance of some good positive publicity....FOR A CHANGE !
Your comment is typical, an answer for everything but a solution to nothing
....a total lack of ambition !
rants of various posters on here.If only they could prize
away one of the top jobs in MAG and solve all the
problems before they come up or be available for a comment
- like a top-notch boss would be able to do.Providing
ofcourse that they were on call 24-7-365"
You are talking utter bollocks Mickeyman. But to be honest I actually think I "could" do a better job !
With regards to this specific topic I was unaware that the airport closed down between Christmas and New Year... (although actually it nearly did )
Any decent businessman who was given a golden opportunity such as this would have grapsed it with both hands and should and would have been waving the flag ! My God at Last we have a USP that other airports do not yet possess !
If I wa swrong in this observation I would hold my hands up, BUT personally, if had been the Marketing Director I would have been ringing the BBC and Sky on Christmas Day if there was a chance of some good positive publicity....FOR A CHANGE !
Your comment is typical, an answer for everything but a solution to nothing
....a total lack of ambition !
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You are talking utter bollocks Mickeyman. But to be honest I actually think I "could" do a better job !
With regards to this specific topic I was unaware that the airport closed down between Christmas and New Year... (although actually it nearly did )
Any decent businessman who was given a golden opportunity such as this would have grapsed it with both hands and should and would have been waving the flag ! My God at Last we have a USP that other airports do not yet possess !
If I wa swrong in this observation I would hold my hands up, BUT personally, if had been the Marketing Director I would have been ringing the BBC and Sky on Christmas Day if there was a chance of some good positive publicity....FOR A CHANGE !
Your comment is typical, an answer for everything but a solution to nothing
....a total lack of ambition !
With regards to this specific topic I was unaware that the airport closed down between Christmas and New Year... (although actually it nearly did )
Any decent businessman who was given a golden opportunity such as this would have grapsed it with both hands and should and would have been waving the flag ! My God at Last we have a USP that other airports do not yet possess !
If I wa swrong in this observation I would hold my hands up, BUT personally, if had been the Marketing Director I would have been ringing the BBC and Sky on Christmas Day if there was a chance of some good positive publicity....FOR A CHANGE !
Your comment is typical, an answer for everything but a solution to nothing
....a total lack of ambition !
How do you know that MAG's PR wasn't in contact with BBC, ITN, SKY etc? What do you want them to say? It was made quite clear by the press that MAN was the main airport with the scanners...
I just don't understand where you are coming from, can you please elaborate?
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Would those airlines, that you would presumably want MAN to be 'selling' themselves to, not already be fully aware of what security arrangements are at all major airports without the need to find out from Sky News?
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Gsky and IB4138...thank you for understanding I thought it was just me,
there is a GOD !
MUFC ..you do dissappoint , many very valid contributions but on this occasion it might be worth entering into a civil partnership with Mickeyman who I am sure has both the time and patience to eleborate....
......sadly I don't !
there is a GOD !
MUFC ..you do dissappoint , many very valid contributions but on this occasion it might be worth entering into a civil partnership with Mickeyman who I am sure has both the time and patience to eleborate....
......sadly I don't !
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I thought the scanners were hastily put away
after complaints from people about the 'nakedness'
of the screen picture......infringement of human rights
etc..etc...
So not much to crow about on that front - just let the
dutch take the lead.
Your services for MAG will not be required - I think.
MM
I thought the scanners were hastily put away
after complaints from people about the 'nakedness'
of the screen picture......infringement of human rights
etc..etc...
So not much to crow about on that front - just let the
dutch take the lead.
Your services for MAG will not be required - I think.
MM
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MAN would piss a lot of people off if they went on telly claiming to have safer security than other UK airports. It would be asking for the next big story to be an unsafe incident at MAN. However trivial. Commercially dumb to go down that path and tempt fate.
Commercially dumb to go down that path and tempt fate.
How many airlines do you see advertising/marketing themselves on the basis they are safer/the safest etc.
Do eurotunnel try and advertise that travelling with them avoids your ship sinking, do Virgin trains claim to be safer than transpennine ......
Look around, commercially it's an area that any company knows is best kept kept very clear of.
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If the main headline on the front page of the Independant is anything to go by, it is extremely lucky that MAN DIDN'T go in front of the cameras parading their so-called world acclaimed security.
The Sunday Express main headline doesn't make for easy reading either...
The Sunday Express main headline doesn't make for easy reading either...
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You have totally missed the point guys...
I am not suggesting that Manchester stand up and crows about being "thee safest airport in Britain", thats clearly nonsense .. if you re-read I suggested that it was "potentially safer" ....
I was simply trying to make the point that Manchester needs as much publicity as possible in the present climate !
....After all the PM has just indicated he wants them in every UK airport, BUT Manchester has them in situ ALREADY !!!!
....therefore it would have been an opportunity to promote the airport within the context of this story, as indeed most switched on companies do when a news story relates to them !
Sadly not one spokesperson from Manchester Airport has appeared despite the fact that they appear to have had this technology thrust upon them.
I suspect it was nothing to do with a "strategic" decison not to appear but has more to do with all the to notch management being on holiday.....
Chris Yates isnt appearing on every channel for the good of his health ....he is promoting his profile in order to add value for the cheargeable services he offers !
I do feel Manchester could have done the same.....
I am not suggesting that Manchester stand up and crows about being "thee safest airport in Britain", thats clearly nonsense .. if you re-read I suggested that it was "potentially safer" ....
I was simply trying to make the point that Manchester needs as much publicity as possible in the present climate !
....After all the PM has just indicated he wants them in every UK airport, BUT Manchester has them in situ ALREADY !!!!
....therefore it would have been an opportunity to promote the airport within the context of this story, as indeed most switched on companies do when a news story relates to them !
Sadly not one spokesperson from Manchester Airport has appeared despite the fact that they appear to have had this technology thrust upon them.
I suspect it was nothing to do with a "strategic" decison not to appear but has more to do with all the to notch management being on holiday.....
Chris Yates isnt appearing on every channel for the good of his health ....he is promoting his profile in order to add value for the cheargeable services he offers !
I do feel Manchester could have done the same.....