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IOM BRS and IOM SOU loads are really bad at the moment no argument but theres no news of them being chopped out here yet. Last winter BE cut the routes even with the loads much bigger than this year. None of us can work it out.
Maybe BE managers are all in Finland partying
Maybe BE managers are all in Finland partying
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I flew on 6 flybe flights in October and asked the same question each time and got the same answer that flybe ( cabin crews ) were not sure when they would be recieving the 175s !!!
I`m asking a question now - Is Flybe swapping a dash8 for a E175 on a like for like basis with the plan being that they will have an eventual all Embraer fleet ?
I flew on 6 flybe flights in October and asked the same question each time and got the same answer that flybe ( cabin crews ) were not sure when they would be recieving the 175s !!!
I`m asking a question now - Is Flybe swapping a dash8 for a E175 on a like for like basis with the plan being that they will have an eventual all Embraer fleet ?
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I don't think there is much point asking anymore - the date you get will most likely get pushed back again and again. They'll arrive when they'll arrive and it will be a pleasant surprise.
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Emb 175's
Maybe they have realised they made a colossal mistake ordering them? 
On a serious note, I have always thought that the reason flybe transformed into a national player from a relatively small airline was because of the Q400. Surely going back to jets whether they are more advanced then the old 146's or not is a backwards step?
On a serious note, I have always thought that the reason flybe transformed into a national player from a relatively small airline was because of the Q400. Surely going back to jets whether they are more advanced then the old 146's or not is a backwards step?
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Guernsey Airport pushback
Channel Island manager Ian Taylor was on the BBC Channel Islands news this evening complaining about Guernsey Airport starting nose in parking and the cost implications for Flybe that it will have to pass on to the travelling public.
Now lets look at the destinations served by Flybe from Guernsey...
London Gatwick - pushback
Southampton - pushback
Birmingham - pushback
Exeter - pushback
Jersey - pushback
Why should Guernsey be any different Mr Taylor?
Channel Island manager Ian Taylor was on the BBC Channel Islands news this evening complaining about Guernsey Airport starting nose in parking and the cost implications for Flybe that it will have to pass on to the travelling public.
Now lets look at the destinations served by Flybe from Guernsey...
London Gatwick - pushback
Southampton - pushback
Birmingham - pushback
Exeter - pushback
Jersey - pushback
Why should Guernsey be any different Mr Taylor?
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Or could it be that he has a valid point. Flybe will have to purchase a push back tug and bars and training will be required for the ground staff to do the pusback, also more staff involved - driver, comms guy and at least one wingman, maybe two as the stands will be close together.
Also, there will be more congestion at peak times, for example, 3 a/c are all due out at 0700. I'm sure there will be delays while you wait for the one that has pushed to complete his checks and taxi away.
Also, there will be more congestion at peak times, for example, 3 a/c are all due out at 0700. I'm sure there will be delays while you wait for the one that has pushed to complete his checks and taxi away.
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Tin Canary, The purchase of the push back gear will be down to the handling agent & not Flybe. No doubt Flight Support - the handling agent - have a few relics lying around somewhere that they can ship down to GCI, knowing the company I also doubt that any equipment will be new.
However Flybe will incur extra charges for this service, but no more than at any other airport with nose in parking.
However Flybe will incur extra charges for this service, but no more than at any other airport with nose in parking.
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The handling agent will indeed purchase the pushback tug and pushback bar for the Dash8-Q400. However this will come at a cost to the handling charges of the airline at Guernsey.
All additional costs for this type of operation will be passed on to the airline.
Purchasing new pushback bars
Purchasing or transportation of pushback tug(s) to the island.
Fuel costs for the pushback tug(s)
Maintenance of the pushback equipment.
Training costs for pushback drivers & headstet training.
The costs of purchasing equipment is not cheap as they are specialised. The handling agent will not absorb these additional costs as it may be what is the difference between a profitable and non profitable base as airlines search for lowest handling fees possible.
Could the additional costs then have a knock on effect that some marginal routes may now be operating at a loss due to the added fees if Flybe absorb. Or this could be passed on to passengers who then may not choose Flybe due to the increase costs. This may mean that a route will also be a loss making one due to lack of demand.
It is very complicated business and nothing is for free these days and costs do get passed on to the customer be it airline or passenger.
All additional costs for this type of operation will be passed on to the airline.
Purchasing new pushback bars
Purchasing or transportation of pushback tug(s) to the island.
Fuel costs for the pushback tug(s)
Maintenance of the pushback equipment.
Training costs for pushback drivers & headstet training.
The costs of purchasing equipment is not cheap as they are specialised. The handling agent will not absorb these additional costs as it may be what is the difference between a profitable and non profitable base as airlines search for lowest handling fees possible.
Could the additional costs then have a knock on effect that some marginal routes may now be operating at a loss due to the added fees if Flybe absorb. Or this could be passed on to passengers who then may not choose Flybe due to the increase costs. This may mean that a route will also be a loss making one due to lack of demand.
It is very complicated business and nothing is for free these days and costs do get passed on to the customer be it airline or passenger.
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If you look, the money for tugs is actually being paid for by the States of Guernsey as part of the £6m budget. No price being passed onto airlines - so why is Flybe complaining?
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I've done a quick scan and couldn't see it posted so apologies if it has been posted.
flybe.ee will operate the AY937/8 HEL-MAN-HEL on Saturdays using a Finncom E170.
AY3757 HEL 1600 MAN 1700 op by BE
AY3758 MAN 1750 HEL 2235 op by BE
flybe.ee will operate the AY937/8 HEL-MAN-HEL on Saturdays using a Finncom E170.
AY3757 HEL 1600 MAN 1700 op by BE
AY3758 MAN 1750 HEL 2235 op by BE
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Re Intro of pushback at GCI
As usual FlyBE are crying "wolf" before they have seen it. Push back is to be introduced at GCI for a 2 year period while aprons are reconstructed (runway too in fact). The tractors and operators are being paid for as part of the budget for the work. Previous posts showing GCI is the only airport served by FlyBE not using pushback are also relevant...I have noticed too that at Bristol (where both types of parking are available), it is usual to see their DASH 8 nose in - in front of the terminal.
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There is also the additional factor of pushing back aircraft takes longer so it is harder to make-up the odd minute r two for delays.
They also maybe concerned that after this 2 years period Guernsey may decide to keep the nose-in rule enforced but then remove their commitment of funding it by themselves.
They also maybe concerned that after this 2 years period Guernsey may decide to keep the nose-in rule enforced but then remove their commitment of funding it by themselves.
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flybe DUB-JER?
Given that flybe perform reasonably well from Jersey im wondering how they havent started competing with Aer Lingus on the Dublin route ? DUB operates 3x weekly with A320 equipment from Mar to Oct, suprised they havent considered the route. I do remember them serving Guernsey from DUB but shorly JER is a better option?