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Old 11th Oct 2011, 20:02
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Olton Pete - the key phrase you use mate is "if all the dashes are available"

60-61 aircraft might be all that is needed, but is that allowing for maintenance, or even more likely how much tech cover is required?

Several airframes have left the fleet now (running at about 51 dash and 14 ejets I think) so allowing for 2 or 3 on maint. It doesn't take much disruption before you run out of options.

Flybe are also making themselves available for third party work (like Titan etc), there is also talk (just talk at the moment) that they may have to wetlease airframes to cover shortfalls.

On one day last week 6 dashes were tech, so there isn't much slack, even if it is winter!

Latest guess at 175's arriving, all by month end - possibly, maybe!

As usual Pete, your observations are pretty spot on mate.
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Old 11th Oct 2011, 21:48
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Olton, the BHX hot spare operated Bhx-Man-Dus-Bhx this morning, kept me on Man AStby for 6hours, not impressed
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Old 11th Oct 2011, 22:11
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Cheers I didn't notice the Manchester leg as I was using a BHX SBS site and only checked departures but should have realised that the something was up with the 11.45 arrival time back in BHX!

Will pay more attention in future

Much better tonight though by the look of it just one delay of note.

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Old 13th Oct 2011, 07:22
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Changing the topic slightly - I am getting strong rumours about a South African contract similar to Greece. Anyone no anything?
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Old 13th Oct 2011, 10:01
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Only that we've sold a few aircraft to them.

Doubt we have the manpower to support it, F/O's, especially on the 8, are being hammered on hours at the moment. Unless it came out of Q&A at an ART I'd disregard it out of hand if I were you
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Old 13th Oct 2011, 16:38
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I see the summer 12 routes are out and EXT-EGC has gone. Gutted about that was planning to go to the Dordogne next year!
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Old 13th Oct 2011, 17:47
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Summer 2012

Someone please confirm that they didn't really mean to use the phrase "full schedule" in the press release?

If so what happened to all the BHX French routes?

Gone: -

Bergerac
Brest
Bordeaux
La Rochelle
Toulouse

Leaving Avignon once weekly and Paris!

This year they cut Rennes, Perpignan and Limoges compared to 2010.

Are things that bad?

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Old 13th Oct 2011, 17:55
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We've already lost AVG, BES and NCE and PAR has gone down to 1x daily. Hope EGC hasn't got the chop
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Old 13th Oct 2011, 18:11
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In past years BE have released their summer 12 schedule in stages. Sees that there is to be little growth and lot of cut routes if this is the last schedule. Lets hope they release a second batch...but time is really getting slim now...
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Old 13th Oct 2011, 20:03
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175's, 195's & summer 2012

No surprise, as indicated in an earlier post flybe have given up on the 175's
for the summer 2011 schedule. All flights are now showing the current aircraft operating right up to Sat 29/10/2011.

However all four are still in GDS for the start of winter 2011/12 on Sunday
30/10/2011.

The BHX summer schedule looks far from complete so maybe a little hope left yet
for some of the French routes.

Unusual happening tonight with four 195's operating from BHX (CDG, HAJ, EDI & GLA) as well as visting 195's from BHD & EDI. Hanover went out this morning (Q400) and didn't return per flightstats

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Old 13th Oct 2011, 21:26
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Not so full schedule ....

None of the Summer Saturday Jersey flights are in the BE schedules released today, but HUY-JER at least is bookable with Discover Jersey, with Flybe as the operating carrier
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Old 14th Oct 2011, 10:06
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Yes, it can be confirmed that the phrase 'full schedule' was an unfortunate oversight given that the French routes from Birmingham and Exeter have yet to be finalised. This was mentioned in the Exeter regional release but regretfully left off the main release and the one relating to Birmingham.
The schedule for the outstanding French routes flown from both Birmingham and Exeter will be announced in the next few weeks.
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Old 14th Oct 2011, 10:48
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And Manchester ?

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Old 14th Oct 2011, 11:55
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Work in progress on all outstanding French regional routes as it appears is the case with many other airlines
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Old 14th Oct 2011, 17:43
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So, what is the current state of play with the 175s?

The last I heard was that the finance was taking quite a while because BE wanted to pay a large amount up front.

Will BE actually be taking any 175s this year, or is the whole 175 project on ice for now?
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Old 14th Oct 2011, 21:48
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e175

Why are the mods not being done at the factory ??

Any CAA paperwork is normally completed at the factory so the CAA can have a jolly and that the A/C can be ferried on the UK Reg by FlyBe Crews



Dont wear that sorry the aircraft have been delayed so long any extra mods required must have been known about months ago

Any advances ??
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Old 15th Oct 2011, 16:07
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Did Stelios just try to buy FlyBe?

Rumour has it that in the last week or so Sir Stelios Haji-Ioannou, disgruntled major shareholder in easyJet, has attempted to buy FlyBe but been rebuffed at his first (last?) time of asking. Sir Stelios has attracted adverse publicity recently by trying to start fastjet.com in direct competition to his own airline easyJet. Perhaps this is the first part of that process. Maybe others within FlyBe might care to comment on these rumours.
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Old 15th Oct 2011, 20:37
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To be honest I couldn't care less what's written on the side of our aeroplanes as long as we're well treated and paid a salary commensurate with what we as pilots bring to the company.
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Old 15th Oct 2011, 20:37
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Heard the rumour from within, but it was just that, a rumour. I haven't heard anything with any substance.
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Old 16th Oct 2011, 09:36
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Guys, the Stelios rumour is old news from 2 weeks ago. (see p92)

If Stelios is in the market for an airline, I suggest he heads up the M5 to Donnington Hall where he'll find a load of old 737's with which to start Fastjet.
As has been mentioned, only 25% of the company has been floated so his ability to own Flybe would need him to jump through a large number of hoops all in a row before it becomes possible.
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