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shows how silly people are just because we are in 2013 prop aircraft must be
ancient and 20 years old
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I agree props may not be everyone's cup of tea I just get annoyed when people suggest just because it has propellers its old and horrible and loud even before they step on it, i was at the airport and heard people saying surely thats not our plane it must be 20 years old, when actually it was a 6 month old flybe Q400. Everyone has their opinion you prefer the jets which is fair enough I don't really mind if I were to get a jet or a prop if I was on a flight for less than an hour, as long as I get there safely and comfortabley that's the main thing.
Clearly these redundancies affect all sections of the company, but, I am curious as to whether the pilot redundancies are being done on LIFO, can anyone comment? Is there a chance that various airports and suppliers will reduce their costs to make some of the 60+ unprofitable routes saveable and reduce the number of jobs at risk?
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Don't quote me on this because I'm now 7 months out of the company, but Gatwick aside I think some of these supply and handling contracts had been slashed to the bone as it was. As I was leaving they were even talking about not carrying serviettes anymore to save costs. I believe thats not the case any more but I think they'll be hard pressed to reduce costs in that sector any further.
Don't quote me on this because I'm now 7 months out of the company, but Gatwick aside I think some of these supply and handling contracts had been slashed to the bone as it was. As I was leaving they were even talking about not carrying serviettes anymore to save costs. I believe thats not the case any more but I think they'll be hard pressed to reduce costs in that sector any further.
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The public perception of props... 
It goes like this - Iam not going on that, Props dont look so good, they are unsafe, they are noisy, flights are more turbulent...
BUT the public want cheap flights.
Mr Commercial and Mr Finance at flybe should have see the cost efficiencies of a Dash vs Embraer.
Ok the dash does suffer from 'glitches' and 'gremlins' but its a machine... Its a tea-spoon of fuel-drinking machine.
Whilst the Embraer is a good aircraft in its own right, its looking more and more likely that its not the one for flybe (The 'big' Embraer anyway)
Props? Its all down to efficiency. Looks can be deceptive!
It goes like this - Iam not going on that, Props dont look so good, they are unsafe, they are noisy, flights are more turbulent...
BUT the public want cheap flights.
Mr Commercial and Mr Finance at flybe should have see the cost efficiencies of a Dash vs Embraer.
Ok the dash does suffer from 'glitches' and 'gremlins' but its a machine... Its a tea-spoon of fuel-drinking machine.
Whilst the Embraer is a good aircraft in its own right, its looking more and more likely that its not the one for flybe (The 'big' Embraer anyway)
Props? Its all down to efficiency. Looks can be deceptive!
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Silver streak,
Not sure about perception of props.
Fact they are slower, fact they are noisier, fact people like travelling on jets more.
You will find more people swapping to other carriers if they ditch jets for Dash 8s, thats of course if those airlines are flying the same routes.
The fact that so few airlines fly only props on a quite large route network like Fly Be surely speaks for itself.
Nigel
Not sure about perception of props.
Fact they are slower, fact they are noisier, fact people like travelling on jets more.
You will find more people swapping to other carriers if they ditch jets for Dash 8s, thats of course if those airlines are flying the same routes.
The fact that so few airlines fly only props on a quite large route network like Fly Be surely speaks for itself.
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thats of course if those airlines are flying the same routes.
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Nigel, come on - there are loads of airlines out there operating only a prop aircraft. Jazz, Porter, Aer Lingus Regional / Aer Arran to name a few.
Can we pleassseeee stop this jet vs prop nonsense! It is personal taste and no one person can speak on behalf of the entire worlds population. If we want to look at facts, the fact is people will still fly on a prop if it is an airlink from A to B - an airlink they need to use.
Now lets move on, for the love of god and whilst we are still young.
Anyway I heard that next week we shall hear which routes are remaining, which are going and any new routes. Has anyone any ideas which routes may fall in to each of these groups?
Can we pleassseeee stop this jet vs prop nonsense! It is personal taste and no one person can speak on behalf of the entire worlds population. If we want to look at facts, the fact is people will still fly on a prop if it is an airlink from A to B - an airlink they need to use.
Now lets move on, for the love of god and whilst we are still young.
Anyway I heard that next week we shall hear which routes are remaining, which are going and any new routes. Has anyone any ideas which routes may fall in to each of these groups?
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Q400/175
I know flybe are hardly in purchasing mode at present but does anybody know if this option has been looked at.
Just two less seats than the 175 but it doesn't sound great for room but I suppose the beancounters would love it.
DUBAI: Thailand's Nok launches high capacity Q400
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Just two less seats than the 175 but it doesn't sound great for room but I suppose the beancounters would love it.
DUBAI: Thailand's Nok launches high capacity Q400
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Unless I'm missing a trick, how exactly are bombardier planning to add another 8 seats and a passenger door where hold five currently sits?
The door I can see, and maybe 4 seats, but 8?!?!
The door I can see, and maybe 4 seats, but 8?!?!
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The key is reducing the seat pitch. Flybe currently has a seat pitch of 31in. The high capacity version has a pitch of 29in. By doing this you will be able to squeeze another row of 4 seats in before removing hold 5. Once that's out you would be able to get the other 4 seats in. Bloody cramped aircraft though!
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schedule change
with the closure of the Aberdeen base imminent, am i to assume they may drop the early morning flights out of the city since no aircraft will be here overnight? Or will they change the schedule timing a bit so an aircraft can get up here in the morning. Mainly the ABZ-MAN routing